The tax paid on CDs and DVDs is VAT which is paid on top of the cost of all consumer goods in the UK, so if its an unfair tax on CDs and DVDs do you also see it as unfair when applied to other goods? and do you therefore think its alright to steal them as well?

As it is the current government has actually CUT the amount of tax on CDs, DVDs and all consumer goods, but anyway.

Many other things are subject to price increases the moment they hit these shores, including the hardware you use to download all your torrents, is it therefore ok for you to steal that as well because its over priced?

Or is the difference that music, movies and software are easy to steal so it doesn't really count?

truthfully if dvd's and cd's were less expensive here in the uk, or at least the same price as everywere else in the world I would happily buy genuine copys. A dont see how its fair that I should have to pay considerably more for something than someone in another country. Its not all the goverment either its the actual distributors taking the piss and getting away with it. If cd's and dvd's and other media were priced correctly then pirating would be a much smaller problem than it currently is FACT!

your missing the point here! boson stated in a previous post that tax in the states on a dvd or cd is 15%, Currently we are being charged VAT at 15% yet there is a huge price difference. My problem isnt just with the tax its more with the initial price of the product to begin with

I notice you provide no answers to the questions I've posed but we'll leave that for now.

It is not FACT I'm afraid piracy is a GLOBAL problem, not just a UK one, dropping the price of CDs here to a more acceptable (in your eyes) level would have little to no effect as it doesn't act as enough incentive to stop people getting something for free.

am certainly no trying to be smart just stating my opinion on the forum.

il just agree to disagree, cant be bothered today

what point did i admit i illegally downloa? you can use torrenting for completely legal purposes

Would you bollocks.

You'd just do what everyone else used to do before the Internet came along (yes, some of us are old enough to remember!) and buy less music/films. Of course, then you'd do what - again, pretty much everyone else used to do - and tape everything off your mates.

Yeah - because of course the rest of your arguments have been related to perfectly legitimate use of torrent sites, right?

lol use guys are too easy

Don't give it that. You started this row, now you want us all to believe it was a wind-up? Pull the other one, its got bells on.

Just like you can't be bothered to pay for music and movies you steal, eh? Nice.

Truth is, you're backing out because your position is indefensible.

Please. What else could you have meant when you said:

So... you'll keep torrenting legal stuff until the price of CDs and DVDs is equal the world over??

Go ahead and backpedal... but most of us here are intelligent enough to not buy your story.

Deliberate trolling'll get you banned, mate. Or are you not worried about that, either?

bit ott on here tonight is it not? were all entitled to our own op's. A ment what a said about the price diff in the states but i was keeping it going afterwords

bull**** i buy value dvds all the time from my local supermarket ones you get for a couple of quid or 4 classics for a fiver

It is not opinion as to whether something is illegal or not. What you are doing/advocating/however-you-want-to-spin-it is unquestionably illegal.

As such, I'd suggest you check out the CertForums user agreement. I'll bold the relevant sections in case you've missed it:

If you decide you still want to troll (see section 5.g) while waving the pirate flag, I'd suggest you do it elsewhere.