IT Professionals stump Jobcentres

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    IT Professionals stump Jobcentres



    The number of IT professionals looking for work has reached unprecedented levels over the past couple of years. The government ploughed an extra £5bn into jobcentres during the recession and partnered with specialist recruitment organisations to help take the strain and become more reflective of the UK workforce.

    But IT professionals are often frustrated by the service, known as Jobcentre Plus. Although jobcentres recognise that specialist jobseekers, such as IT professionals, need tailored support, it still insists they broaden their job searches away from IT after three months.

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    1. SimonD
      SimonD
      It's just not that simple Michael. You can't wave a magic wand around and get another role just like that.
    2. LukeP
      LukeP
      this sounds funny
    3. Phoenix
      Phoenix
      Man, I for one enjoy the breaks between jobs, I don't want bloody back to back jobs! I want a bit of free time, its why i work my ass off and have finances that afford me that luxury, if you want to work back to back for 60 -70 years then go 'oh crap I'm too old to enjoy the good stuff now' all power to you, but don't tell me that's what I need to do, i have proven time and time again that it's utter poppycock!
    4. beaumontdvd
      beaumontdvd
      Agreed, in a sense its luck because you could be the most qualified tech but not be able to find a job even if your looking more than another less qualified tech that might stumble across a job. I look at it as luck not logic to be honest, but then again no matter what I say someone will disagree and have a differnt opinion.
    5. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      Sadly, I've seen many people blindly take advice on forums without first thinking for themselves... particularly with regards to IT career matters. Most believe that they will ALSO be the exception to the rule... until stark reality hits them in the face.

      I'm not saying that you shouldn't post your experiences... but had nobody else said anything in response to your posts, it is likely that SOMEBODY is going to read that post and unwisely roll the dice based on your experience. Sure, they might get lucky... but I've seen far too many people follow that exact advice and fail. Call me conservative or overly cautious, but I'd hate to have that kind of burden on my soul knowing that it was MY advice that caused them to slip and fall. :(
    6. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      No... but you can apply yourself and get another role. That's my point. It takes work.
    7. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      If you truly believe that way, it's only because you haven't been in IT long enough to know that skill gets you more IT jobs than luck does.

      Again, if being disagreed with causes you that much heartache, perhaps you should listen instead of give your opinion. Either way is fine by me.
    8. JK2447
      JK2447
      Fair enough mate, but as an ex soldier you'll know better than me, there are leaders and there are followers, and some people coming on here are going to read how well you've done and think "ah, thats how the big boys do it, I'll follow what he's doing".

      That said I totally understand that you're only talking about what you yourself would do and have done. Just wanted to air my thoughts with you for any newbs reading this. Beware! SimonD is freakishly talented, do not try this at home ha ha
    9. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      I'm not telling YOU to do anything, Ryan. I'm saying only that gaps are viewed negatively by employers; that's all. But thanks for poisoning the well anyway. :rolleyes:
    10. SimonD
      SimonD
      Oh where to take this one.

      I have a friend of mine who is a top notch Prince2 qualified PM who spent 9 months out of work, he sent out in excess of 1000 applications in those 9 months (he knows because he kept them all in his sent items folder in Hotmail), he went for perhaps 10 interviews and on more than one occasions was called with 30 minutes or so left before the interview to say that either the position had been put on hold or they had hired internally. This was not a man sitting on his thumb waiting to be handed a job. He isn't the type of guy that should have been out of work for 1 month, let alone 9, he wasn't being lazy and holding back. He was just UNLUCKY.

      Unfortunately that was what was going round for the latter part of last year.
    11. SimonD
      SimonD
      As far as big boys go, you have to be a little boy and grow into being a big boy, don't run before you can walk.

      Which is one of the reasons why I have now added a Disclaimer to my sig... although actually I do prefer yours :p
    12. beaumontdvd
      beaumontdvd
      Obviously skill will get more jobs but there will be times when luck does too. It doesn't cause any heartache I would rather share my opinion with CF :biggrin everyone has different opinions and as much as yours may logic and skill mine may differ obviously your more experienced than I am, so I listen to your opinions and understand them. As much as you can state the logic and the relavance to a question that may not always be the right answer and I believe this all was a question that has no right or wrong answer as it differs for everybody and each person has a different way of dealing with these matters.
    13. Sparky
      Sparky
      I used to be a van driver when I was looking for my first full time IT job. So for everyone just starting out in IT I would suggest you take *any* job to get the £££ rolling in first and keep looking for a job that you really want.

      Bit more difficult for the guys and gals with a few years experience though, I would be pi55ed off if the job centre wanted me to apply for any job with 9 years IT experience behind me.
    14. JK2447
      JK2447
      I'd of pictured you as something more cool sounding before IT mate. . . . . an enforcer, the equilizer, something like that. You've got a mack and a jag haven't you?. . . . :D
    15. Phoenix
      Phoenix
      Yes Mike, i'm a well poisoner because I have a different outlook than you, because I disagree with you spouting that skill gaps turn employers off, that must mean ALL employers right? because if it doesn't, which I assume it doesn't, then my points are just as valid as yours, as are SimonDs

      I dont disagree with you, I'm pretty sure it does turn employers off, but not all of them, and less and less as the generation of hiring managers change, but I wouldn't want to work for someone put off by what I choose to do outside of work anyway, even if that's take a six month break, hell I frequently contracted six months on/six months off, why the hell not? but hey what would I know?
    16. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      Keep on telling yourself that it's just "luck" that gets people hired. Perhaps Zeb and I (and you! AND your brother!!) have simply been "lucky", eh? No skill, no good CV, no interview skill, no personality involved at all, is that it? :rolleyes:

      Sounds like you're trying to play both sides of the fence in an attempt to fend off logic.
    17. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      No... you're a well poisoner because you still choose to use anecdotal evidence to somehow "prove" that I'm wrong about employers not caring about gaps in employment. I couldn't care less about what YOU choose to do. Knock yourself out.

      ...and you're a well poisoner because you change my words from "most employers" to "ALL employers". I've not ONCE said that ALL employers dislike gaps. It should be quite obvious that ALL employers do not mind gaps. But if even just ONE does, then that's ONE less employer that is likely to hire someone with employment gaps... meaning, that's ONE less job opportunity. Thus, gaps can only possibly hinder - and never raise - your chances. Right? At best, gaps in employment will neither hurt nor help your chances with a single employer... unless you actually know of an employer who PREFERS employment gaps... :blink

      The thing is, there's way more than one employer that dislikes employment gaps. The number isn't relevant... if you feel that the number is low, by all means, take all the career breaks you want. But for those who want every advantage possible, they'll want to avoid those employment gaps.
    18. Phoenix
      Phoenix
      being its fun 'quote everyone' time

      where in this line, that i responded do, does it say 'some, most' or some other word with a similar meaning?

      but not all of them, so my opinion does not need to be torn apart like it counts for nothing, nor does Simons
      nuff said
    19. Phoenix
      Phoenix
      you also seem to use the word 'opportunity' to describe working for someone that may poorly judge my resume due to how i choose to structure my life

      perhaps to you that's an opportunity, to me it would be at best a role, there's no opportunity working for those kind of employers

      that's the end from me, this is specifically why i don't get into conversations with you, you just can't handle opinion very well
    20. BosonMichael
      BosonMichael
      You can read the other posts I posted, just like everyone else. It's pretty clear what I'm saying.

      Your opinion doesn't "count for nothing", Ryan. But I'm gonna disagree with it when I know that employers - most, many, some, enough employers - are wary of gaps in employment... and I'm going to debate using logic, not emotion.
      Last edited: Mar 3, 2010

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