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what do you know about UK IT Training centre?

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by Richdog, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. Richdog

    Richdog Bit Poster

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    I have an interview with this company on Thursday. They are based in Tolworth, Surrey, and provide full MCSA training, then apparenmtly a guaranteed job placement in your local area,or as close to home as you can get, in a c£20k role.

    I'd appreciate it if anyone could tell me their thoughts on this company and have a look at their website and tell me what they think http://www.ukittraining.com/

    Seems to have very good facilities and equipment, plus IF it does offer a guaranteed job (provided you pass the interview, it'll be very competetive I expect) then it could be a good option.

    It offers subsidised training (guess i'll find out how much when I get there) and flexible training schedule.

    So... give me your thoughts please. :)
     
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  2. SimonV

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    I personally would take that claim with a VERY big pinch of salt. :blink
     
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  3. Phil
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    To be honest I'd take all job placement guarantees from these training companies with a huge grain of salt.

    Looking at their website they appear to be yet another firm quoting outdated stats, over the top salary expectations - Avg UK IT Salary £44,600!!!!!! nearly redecorated the monitor with coffeee over that one. The promise of just a few little exams and all this could be yours, sorry but the way they are promoting it doesnt inspire me with confidence.
     
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  4. tripwire45
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    I don't see how any training outfit can guarentee you a job...especially at a particular pay rate unless they are going to hire you themselves or own another business that can use your skill set and they have openings. Always be wary of such promises.
     
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  5. punkboy101
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    I would agree with all of the above, be carefull about believing what the trainning companie tell's you. If it sounds too good to be true, it probly is.
     
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  6. Richdog

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    Yeah cheers for the replies guys that's pretty much what I was thinking, it all sounds terribly fantastical. The guy I spoke to on the phone also sounded a bit sales-pitchy, but he said so far they have had 100% successful placement rate.

    *sigh* I really hope the company I work for at the moment (Reed publishing, HUGE company) decide to take me up into the I.T. department, that would be ideal. They are one of the biggest publishers in the world so some I.T. networking etc experience with them would look great on my C.V. Ahhh... I can but hope.

    Not sure if I even want to waste my time taking time off work, going up to Tolworth for the interview, and spending the cash on a train ticket etc.

    Bah.
     
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  7. benjamin

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    I' ve got your problem buddy, I went to the interview on thursday and they phoned me up to on friday saing that they like me and I can start the training...
    I really don't know it really looks too good!!!

    If it is as they say I will invest my money in them but I'm worryed it will go down the drain...
     
  8. Mitzs
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    They told you too that they have 100% successful placement rate? If so then I would ask for atleast 10 of these placements name and their contact numbers. So you may do some research yourself. I find it hard to belive anyone can claim 100% unless they only had 1 student graduate. Ask them what their drop-out rate is too. They do know what it is. So don't settle for "we don't keep track of that" line.
     
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  9. JonnyMX

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    Ask to visit the training centre before you give them any money. See how much training is going on there.
    It sounds to me as if they're a corporate training centre who have realised that they can jump on the certification bandwagon just by sending a few salesmen out.
    It makes sense for them to try and drum up business for themselves, it doesn't necessarily make them evil.

    The job guarantee thing is a bit worrying. You need to see the small print on that, don't rely on asking the salesman.
    If they guarantee you something on the website and in your contract then they have to deliver it. The small print will tell you what form it comes in and what their 'get out' clause is.
     
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  11. immoral giant

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    I was also looking at this, saw an ad in the newspaper.

    What are the prices for the courses? There are no prices on the website that i can see.

    Still deciding whether to get an interview or not. Cerco haven't stopped annoying me since i did their online test.

    On a previous thread it said that it costs £7000. Is that true?
     
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  12. Mikeeeee

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    Hi Guys,

    I also saw the add in the paper and called them. They asked me a few details and then I got booked in for an interview (in a couple of weeks time).

    I thought I would see if I could find any reviews of this company on the internet which led me here...

    After seeing all of your comments I have looked on the companies house web site (www.companieshouse.gov.uk) to see how long this company have been trading and it is very interesting reading...

    The company have changed their name a few times
    UKIT Training (London) Limited
    UK IT Training (London) Limited
    UKIT Training Limited
    UK IT Training Limited
    The interestoing thing is that one of the previous company names was CALT Limited, this went into liquidation.

    I have called them back and left a message saying that I will not be taking up the interview for the training 'opportunity'. I think this is too risky for me to spend thousands on when the company does not seem to be so stable.

    Can anyone recommend a good training company ?
    I have seen one called the training camp that does residentials and quick 14 day courses which look good to me. has anyone used these ?

    Mike
     
  13. tripwire45
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    Hi Mike. I can't respond to your query as such, but I would like to greet you and suggest that, if you haven't already, you pop up to the New Members Introduction forum and tell us a bit about yourself and how you found us. Thanks. :)
     
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  14. Oldtricks

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    I have just finished some training with UKIT and want to warn anyone considering such a move.

    Firstly, I would now chose a company that teaches windows XP and Windows Server 2003 from the outset.

    Second, the job guarantee is only applicable if you do the whole of the training. If you stop at the CIW or MCSA stage you will not get any help.
    The training will take a lot longer than you think, and what UKIT will have you believe. You WILL NOT be ready to take the exam straight after the in house training - you will need to do a lot of study in your own time. I have seen students trying to cram two exams into the last month of their study time - just not a good idea. Also you won't be given any leeway, once your time is up that's it.
    If you don't have a good interest in IT forget this training. As my training went on only those with some IT background seemed to be left.
    There are a lot of "hidden" costs - such as the exam fees. The A+ Networks costs about £170 and the Microsoft exams over £100 each.
    For the Microsoft exams you will need about 4 PC's! One good PC for access to the internet and three PC's for "crash and burn". You will need a router to connect the "crash and burn" PC's and a copy of the Operating System for each PC. It all adds up.
    Finally, the facilities and trainers vary from average to excellent. although there is no parking close by if you are driving in.

    I am not saying don't do this but go in with your eyes fully open and consider the other options as well.
     
  15. Clyde

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    er..if one doesn't have an interest in IT what the hell is the point in doing ANY IT training ?

    Also, re the 'hidden costs' I know someone who did this and he showed me his contract (I have a professional interest in this stuff *G*) and I'm pretty sure it mentioned that exams weren't covered, so how could it be hidden ?
     
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  16. JonnyMX

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    Excuse me?
     
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  17. ffreeloader

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    I'd assume that this means for a lab so you can be constantly installing and reinstalling the evaluation copies of MS OS's since they are all time limited. You most definitely don't want to do that with your daily computer.

    I'd say the estimate of at least 3 computers in a lab is about right for a minimal lab too.
     
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  18. _omni_

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    money...promises of being rich, etc.
    i went to that company when i was choosing a training provider, i didn't choose them because of all the millions of images they had of people on vacation, skiing, sunbathing, relaxing etc, making it look like once you entered the world of IT, you would inherit bill gates' fortune.
    and omg (according to their website) they still do win2k!!
    and they arent associated with microsoft.

    oh and i took their "interview" and "test", and i was told that out of 96 people only 4 passed, and i was one of them. needless to say i was feeling good about myself until i was told that these training providers say that to everyone :eek:
    after all if you are total crap you will fail and its your fault, not theirs, but they can get your money AND not have to fulfill their "guaranteed employment" promise, so its win-win for them.
    so unless you are a total moron they will likely take you.
    same for all training providers, i think.
     
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  19. Clyde

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    I can't see one good reason to do IT there.

    If you want to make money and enjoy life, find something you like doing and do it as well as you can.. likely enough you'll make money,

    Otherwise, take my advice, and if you are motivated solely by money, learn sales techniques. IT requires constant learning and dedication and if you don't love gadgets and tech you're outclassed by others already...

    w2k still accounts for the majority of installs out there. Hell, NT is still out there. I'd rather good W2K training that crap XP training.. That aside, if you believe every sales pitch about riches, I have the deeds to the brooklyn bridge here, going cheap ?

    As for MS association - means absolutely bugger all. There are NO, repeat NO 'associations' that mean any mark of quality. Any doofus can become MCT certified, and I've seen a few in my days. Any training organisation can be affiliated with a dozen impressive sounding companies simply by paying out cash. I'm a CIW Certified Trainer - sounds impressive ? I got my CIW foundations cert and a letter from my employer and 6 weeks later, I'm a certified trainer.. means bugger all.

    I'm sure UK IT are the same as many other training providers, theyre in the business of making money. We dont hear too much about them here so they cant be all bad.
     
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  20. _omni_

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    i know, but where i train half the people say theyre there simply for the money. including ppl that have no place there, they obviously arent suited for tech stuff, but they have dreams of grandeur. well whatever.

    oh and yes, win2k may be good, but isnt win2003 better?
     
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