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Want to have a career in Oracle but many questions, help me please

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by tech291083, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. tech291083

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    hi all,

    i am interested in starting a career in oracle.i know a little abt MS Access and that is where i got interested in databases.i have been told that i can start working as a volunteer for big/small organisations or charites etc.... which use oracle as their database solution.but i m not sure where to find this kind of companies.i really need some serious help with this issue as it has been bothering me for more than a year now.please guide me asap.by the way i would like to work near edinburgh only due to family problems.cheers.
     
  2. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    Ok, Firstly, how much do you know about Oracle Databases? You have said that you know a bit about MS Access databases, but what about Oracle?

    What you want to be doing is getting hold of a Book on Oracle, and a copy of it and start building your own databases to make sure if you like it. It's all good and well wanting to work with Oracle databases, but how do you know if you like working with them?

    Have you thought about looking at other databases (SQL, etc)?

    If you voulnteered your services to a company do you think that they would just start letting you loose on their database servers witghout any prior training? If you are not already working in IT then I would suggest that you take a look at the Comptia A+ as your starting point to give you the well rounded fundamantals that you will need in any career in IT.

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  3. tech291083

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    hi simon,

    thanks for the reply.your reply does make a lot of sense to me.i agree with it without a shadow of a doubt.i know nothing abt the oracle stuff as of now,but i am really interested in getting into the database scene and need to start some where.i would be gr8ful if some one like you can give me some feedback.cheers
     
  4. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    I'll ask it simply, what is it that attracts you to Oracle? there are many other Database technologies out there - MS SQL, My SQL, Postgre SQL, Corel, to name but a few. Why Oracle specificaly? You may find that by restricting yourself to a single technology you are limiting your employment options.

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  5. tech291083

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    well a couple of reasons, basically i was talking to a friend of mine who has been in touch with a few guys who are into oracle and making good money (i do not know much abt the market though) and they have told him (my friend) that oracle is a market leader and some of its strengths against other technologies of similar nature.i would appreciate if you can tell me in order to get into oracle which certifications i should be going for as i know nothing.thanks again...
     
  6. hbroomhall

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    If you want to know databases for not a lot of outlay then I'd suggest MySQL and PostgreSQL. The latter particularly is a full RDBMS, whereas MySQL has quite a number of holes.

    Both are free and both have Windows versions.

    You can download an evaluation copy of Oracle for free I believe as well.

    Oracle run their own certification program, but these cost a fair bit last time I looked. I've been on a couple of courses paid for by my employer, and they were definitely well presented.

    You would need to get some of the Oracle books as well.

    Harry.
     
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  7. tech291083

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    hi harry,

    thanks a lot for the reply.i m located in scotland and i need your help to find out the centres or companies that help gain an oracle certification or plz let me know how to find it apart from googling it.thanks...
     
  8. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    What you need to think about is weather or not you will enjoy working with databases. You have to be doing it for the right reasons - because you enjoy it.

    Oracle have a training page here that will explain their different options far better than anyone else can. 8)
     
  9. tech291083

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    thanks simon i have gone through the page and course details but to be honest in order to become a specialist in future for example if i want to get a role as a DBA (to be honest i do not know what it really involves) which is the best course to go for as there are so many courses even if u select database as the mani category from the scroll down menu and 9i as the sub category. i m sorry i do not intend to annoy you but want to get some really useful suggestions.thanks
     
  10. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    If you want some good honest career advice then forget about databases. At least for the moment.

    Get yourself a good solid foundation in basic IT administration, and look to move on from there, With being a DBA as your ultimate goal.

    The CompTIA A+ is a great place to start, regardless of where your future career may take you. Follow the A+ up with the Network+, as both of these will give you the blocks to start building on (walk before you can run). After gaining these you can then start to look at Databases, personally I would look at MS SQL server before Oracle. Others may disagree.

    In terms of employment, start looking for entry level IT support positions with companies near to you. As your skills develop on the job you may find that you are learning more about IT, and possibly even databases than you could through simply studying them.

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  11. ffreeloader

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    Oracle is the leader in the market share it targets, but that is a pretty exclusive market. Oracle is way too expensive for many small to medium size companies to acquire. The next step down the price line is MS SQL server but it is also very expensive in its Enterprise edition. SQL Server Standard Edition isn't cheap either.

    If you want to learn database administration and coding then learn Linux and Postgresql. It is the open source version of an enterprise level rdbms. It has lots of features, is scalable with some 3rd party tools, and is a pretty robust system. It is also free to install and use.

    Oracle would probably cost you several thousand dollars to set up and use. I don't know about you, but that's way too expensive for me.

    Oracle may have some type of academic discount or developers edition though. I'm not sure as I've never even considered learning Oracle because I don't really have any desire to work for very large corporations and they're the only entities who can afford Oracle's price structure other than governments.
     
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  12. hbroomhall

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    I mentioned that you could have a single user version of Oracle for free in a previous posting.

    See here for more info.

    Harry.
     
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