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VPN to slow and Leased Line to expensive, HELP!

Discussion in 'Internet, Connectivity and Communications' started by Alex399, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. Alex399

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    Hello

    I work for a recruitment agency and we have 3 branches and a main server based in 1 office and the other 2 branches connect to this server via a VPN at the moment, now the VPN being run across the internet has a upload speed maxing out at about 500 kbps at peak hours, at the main office we have the fastest internet available in the area (20 mbps) I think it is.

    At the 2 other offices we have 20 mbps internet also, being a recruitment agency we regularly upload CV's to a database and this is proving to a painfully long wait for the other 2 offices running on the VPN with a slow upload speed.

    Now a leased line is ridiculously expensive, £20,000 a year odd with about a £3000 installation charge, so thats a big huge "no"

    A chap that I work with has suggested a "Bonded connection" which to my knowledge is combining multiple internet connections to a special kind of router combining it into effectively one fast internet connection thus increasing the upload speed greatly, then again the cost of three bonded internet connections could begin to add up in price no?

    Any other suggestions or ideas as to what else can be done to increase the upload speed?
     
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  2. ThomasMc

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    The cheap way would be to get a bonded connection with Be* this isn't exact pricing but it will give you a rough idea

    Setup cost- £85(covers connection and bonded router)
    Monthly cost est*: £55 pcm

    est speed upto 48mb download and upto 5mb upload

    Where I work we use Xrio bonding devices for bonding and failover, head office has a UBM400i(4port adsl2+) and UBM200i at branch offices with multiple ISP for failover and the Xrios will do the VPN bonding at the client side.
     
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  3. Josiahb

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    The other option may be to look at SDSL, should be cheaper than leased line but will be more expensive than going for bonded.

    A lot depends on whats available in your area.
     
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  4. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

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    HOW MUCH?

    Jesus wept - our leased line is a 100Mb LES from BT and costs about 12k a year!
     
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  5. Boycie
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    Really? We were quoted 10K for a 4mb service on a 10M carrier. Maybe geography has a big part to play with the leased quotes. The place in question currently has pidgeon's delivering mail via postini :biggrin
     
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  6. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

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    LOL - IP Over Avian Carriers FTW!

    Actually, I think being in Central London does help massively on telco costs. Of course, when the muppets do a B end shift and knock the a dip switch on the service card to half duplex - then spend two months trying to diagnose the problem - there's not much point having 100Mb of bandwidth :biggrin
     
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  7. Gingerdave

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    Our Leased lined is about that pricing - I would suggest that the op look around for some more quotes - as well as looking like a multi year deals in which they may off set the install costs.

    Atleast demon/Thus/Cable and Wireless (delete to show who they are today) will do that.
     
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  8. Boycie
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    Zeb - thanks for the link mate! :D

    GD - Had good quotations from Virgin media in some places...
     
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  9. AJ

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    Hmm when you are out in the sticks and where I work is in the middle of no-where, this is small fry. We have 100mb leaqsed line and that is in excess of £40K
     
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    Holy Moses
     
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    My wallet just cried at the thought of that...
     
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  12. Alex399

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    so errrrrmmmm... yeh :offtopic :blink...... any ideas guys?

    I don't want to sound demanding but it would be nice to know, if there are any other alternatives out there.
     
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  13. ThomasMc

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    Ignore me
     
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  14. AJ

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    Sorry Alex didn't mean to steal your thread like.

    Is there any reason that you have to use a VPN? If all you are doing is uploading CV's to a remote why not FTP them using secure FTP. Also if you have to use a VPN are the files zipped up to compress them?
     
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  15. Gingerdave

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    I think the options are SDSL or bonded ADSL as mentioned further up.

    If fibre/ leased line is not a cost option try those. if that cant help you well you could be out of luck.
     
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    I managed to get 4MB on 10MB carrier @ 7k early last year in manchester.
     
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  17. Alex399

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    Thats fine no harm done :biggrin

    We do alot more than just upload CV's, its integrated with Microsoft Outlook for instance on our Desktops PC's and we do download on a regular basis from the server aswell, I'm not very familiar with Secure FTP :oops: I have a rusty understanding of what you mean but nothing in depth or detailed.
    The files also aren't zipped either, wouldn't that be time consuming?? should you be uploading CV's one at a time constantly throughout the whole day?? To have to compress them then unzip the files wouldn't that add on time to the whole proccess?
     
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  18. Boycie
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    That's good mate. 3 year contract? What about the install fee (if any)

    Cheers,
     
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  19. AJ

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    Here is a link on Secure FTP

    If your clients have winzip or winrar installed, all it is, is a right click of the mouse and then send to archive. Windows can do this as well.

    I was just trying to suggest an alternative if you stay with what you have. If you use exchange then you could do some funky stuff with public folders.
     
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  20. Sparky
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    If you want a bandwidth solution SDSL (as already said) could be an option.

    Also have you considered moving some of the users on Terminal Services or Citrix? That would drop the amount of data going across the VPN.
     
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