1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Vista Password Rcovery - booting up

Discussion in 'Software' started by Colloghi, Dec 26, 2007.

  1. Colloghi

    Colloghi Kilobyte Poster

    303
    7
    54
    Hope everyone had a good chrstmas:D


    ok, lets get started

    Today ive had someone bring to me their daughters brand spanking new pink laptop, installed with windows vista basic. The kid has forgotten her password to log in, no problem i thought, safe mode, admin, change password.

    Except admin dosnt come up when you try to boot up in safe mode, just the users name, and this stil prompts you for a password.

    She hasnt created a password reset disk, so afterlooking around an seeing plenty of "ooooh you will have to completely reinstall vista" topcs, im just wondering is there another way.

    Its a brand new laptop and i dont really want to reinstall vista.......
     
    Certifications: A+, MCP 270, 271, MCDST
    WIP: 290
  2. Sparky
    Highly Decorated Member Award

    Sparky Zettabyte Poster Moderator

    10,189
    296
    319
    What kinda laptop is it? recovery disk perhaps? 8)
     
    Certifications: MSc MCSE MCSA:M MCSA:S MCITP:EA MCTS(x5) Security+ Network+ A+
    WIP: Exchange 2007\2010
  3. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

    6,623
    115
    224
    Have you tried the double CTL-ALT-DEL trick to get the classic login screen? Works in XP, no idea if it works in Vista.

    Harry.
     
    Certifications: ECDL A+ Network+ i-Net+
    WIP: Server+
  4. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

    6,623
    115
    224
    Having done some digging, it appears that the Admin account is normaly disabled on Vista Home versions (and possibly others).

    I now see why so many people say 'restore from the restore disks' as nearly all the tricks in XP to get round this seem to have been blocked.

    Harry.
     
    Certifications: ECDL A+ Network+ i-Net+
    WIP: Server+
  5. AJ

    AJ Administrator Administrator

    6,771
    102
    221
    That's right Harry, M$ have disabled the Admin account by default on Vista.

    I am with the others to use the restore disk.
     
    Certifications: MCSE, MCSA (messaging), ITIL Foundation v3
    WIP: Looking at doing ..................
  6. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

    3,748
    330
    187
    Hey - you could always use the advice given last week and take the opportunity to upgrade to XP whilst you do it!

    Seriously though, try this - download it and boot from a USB key.
     
    Certifications: A few
    WIP: None - f*** 'em
  7. Colloghi

    Colloghi Kilobyte Poster

    303
    7
    54
    I meant to reply same day to this, but with parents coming for boxing day, wife telling me to "stop playing" and the dog sat with lead in mouth.........i kinda forgot:(

    Anyway, Well not really a resolution to this, but ive got it sorted anyhow.

    At a later time, i was provided with a password, which the girl thought it might be, it wasnt but after a bit of determination and about 500 combinations of the password given I managed to log in, and changed it to something which is easier for her:D

    advised them to make a password hint, and backup their password.:D


    I think its a bit mental of MS to basically say, if you dont do anything to keep your password safe, your screwed and have to reinstall everything.

    Now i bet the majority of casual users and techies, wont be bothered to create a password reset disk. I read elsewhere that the password create thing is specific to each user account, which seems a bit mental:blink


    I can understand security risks etc, but surely this type of lockdown should be specific to the higher end versions of Vista, not the casual home users, who more and likely WONT backup their password:eek:



    Non MS OS sysetms should use that issue to their advantage.......get vista, forget your password....and erm potentially lose data

    mental
     
    Certifications: A+, MCP 270, 271, MCDST
    WIP: 290
  8. greenbrucelee
    Highly Decorated Member Award

    greenbrucelee Zettabyte Poster

    14,283
    254
    329
    I agree the casual home user will not see the benefits of creating backup disks and password hints, this is mainly out of ignorance and not understanding the technology.

    I am forever getting questions from work collegues like 'why can't I have two firewalls?, is not not better? and my fan in my computer is grinding what is it?' type of questions. When you explain the answers they seem to switch off because it does not interest them even though they want the answer.

    The casual home user just wants a pc to work and thats it, but its not as simple as that is what I say to them.

    One of them today said he got new antivirus software called bullgaurd and its found 58 potential serious intrusions on his pc, for some reason his nortons wasn't flaggin any of them up and his computer is loading slowly. I got him to check the quarantine folder in his Nortons and there were 53 viruses in it, I had to explain to him that he is supposed get rid of them not let them sit there :blink
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  9. Kraven

    Kraven Kilobyte Poster

    297
    3
    49
    I recommend them buying an Apple MAC.

    Kraven
     
    Certifications: Network+, MCSA, 70-680
    WIP: A+, 70-685
  10. BosonMichael
    Highly Decorated Member Award

    BosonMichael Yottabyte Poster

    19,136
    462
    374
    You can prevent this sort of problem from happening by doing one of three things...

    1) Enabling the Administrator account
    2) Creating an extra user account with admin privileges
    3) Most importantly... don't forget your password. :rolleyes:

    Hopefully, the daughter has learned her lesson. :)
     
    Certifications: CISSP, MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CCNA Security, CCNA Voice, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+
    WIP: Just about everything!
  11. Theprof

    Theprof Petabyte Poster Forum Leader

    4,570
    68
    196
    I was going to say, doesn't something like BartPE or SuperwinPE have a locksmith application? I know that you can those for free of the web.
     
    Certifications: A+ | CCA | CCAA | Network+ | MCDST | MCSA | MCP (270, 271, 272, 290, 291) | MCTS (70-662, 70-663) | MCITP:EMA | VCA-DCV/Cloud/WM | VTSP | VCP5-DT | VCP5-DCV
    WIP: VCAP5-DCA/DCD | EMCCA

Share This Page

Loading...