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Verifying course content 70-290

Discussion in 'Windows Server 2003 / 2008 / 2012 Exams' started by matchett1982, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. matchett1982

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    Recently i recieved course material for Exam 70-290 which i believe to be out-of-date. It includes reference to sus instead of WSUS and has other Discrepancies. Some part of the material also seems to be incomplete. Is there anyway i can verify the current 70-290 exam criteria?

    Thank you
     
  2. BosonMichael
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    Ask and ye shall receive: link
     
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  3. matchett1982

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    Thank you for the reply. That site doesn't really tell me alot. It doesn't distinquish the technologies in server 2003 that you are tested on in the exams...For instance, SUS/WSUS. The material i have doesn't mention WSUS. The chapter is dedicated to SUS, which is no longer used. On amazon for the 2nd revision of the MCSE 2003 core materials my course doesn't include the updates as below. These were released in may 06 and i recieved my course content in july


    UPDATED Manage hardware devices, disk storage, software, and print services
    NEW Administer software updates with Windows Server Update Service (WSUS)
    UPDATED Perform system recovery, including new information about Emergency Management Services (EMS)
     
  4. greenbrucelee
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    Who are you doing this course through?

    Why don't you tell them you think their material is out of date?

    I am assuming you have paid a lot of money for a course, I wouldn't be happy paying for a course if the material was crap.
     
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    The company is called Skills train and today when i phoned to complain the guy on the phone tried to make me out to be an idiot. He claimed the material was up-to-date and so on...I pointed all to him all the material that is misssing and his response was you can't know everything..its like doing a degree, its general he said...i said to him that an MCSE is meant to know every aspect of his field that the MCSE course is a specialist course aimed at just that. I've had to refer to 3rd party material in addition to my course material in order to do certain things. I am phoning microsoft customer services tomorrow in order to find out the current technologies that are currently being tested. They don't supply you with any software or virtual exam material...I've looked at other course which supply you with evaluation copies of server 2003. I don't how they expect anyone to carry out the practical part of the course with no software. I would look sweet walking into a business tellling them the benefits of SUS when it has been superseeded by WSUS...Am i getting my point across. They put it across that people from non I.T. backgrounds can take on these courses.
     
  6. BosonMichael
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    Well, what would you say if I told you that Microsoft has THESE recommendations before starting on the MCSE:

    Not one year in IT... but a year doing those things.

    So, do you want to believe a company wanting to sell you an expensive training course, or Microsoft itself?

    Even if you got the certification, the certification without the experience is not very useful. Companies won't hire you up to administer a network without experience regardless of how many certifications you have.

    If you want to get started in IT, my suggestion would be to start with the A+ (through self-study - you don't need an expensive training course!) and to look for entry-level IT jobs. Start looking NOW, not after you've gotten the A+. If you finish the A+ before you find a job, put it on your CV and continue onward with the Network+ certification. The A+, Network+, and MCDST are all fine entry-level certifications that can help give you an advantage when applying for entry-level jobs that don't require IT experience.

    Best of luck!
     
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    Skillstrain eh :eek:

    There's been plenty of threads about them on here, if you do a search you'll see.

    Some of them are positive but a lot of us reccomend self study because these places train people up in courses they shouldn't be doing like the MCSE because they don't have the practicle experience which they should otherwise the certification could be usless when the MCSE person goes for a job with no real world experience.

    And yes sometime they provide inadequate material, but once you have signed and passed the cooling off period I don't think there is much you can do. :(
     
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    If i can prove the material is out-of-date, they have mis sold me a product which is unsuitable for the current 70-290 exam. I've got the most up-to-date information to compare their material to. I got it off amazon. I am writing a letter to them now specifying that i am suspending payments until they provide me with the most up-to-date information about the technologies that are tested on in the exam. I have mails from them telling me that their student marked assignments represent the actual exams etc The most recent version the the revised 2nd edition of the corse MCSE core exams. The material that is listed in this books does not exist in the material i have....therefore this can only mean that the material they have supplied me with is not the most recent available. They have no comeback to that
     
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    Good for you, I would also demand a refund and leave then you save your cash a self study by setting up your own lab.

    Let us know how it goes, good luck :)
     
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