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SkillsTrain worries

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by xfirstlostsoulx, Nov 14, 2005.

  1. xfirstlostsoulx

    xfirstlostsoulx New Member

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    hi there

    can anybody help me?

    theres a advisor coming tomorrow

    anybody that has had dealings with SkillsTrain do they push you into signing there and then?

    thank you
     
  2. Jakamoko
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    Jakamoko On the move again ...

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    There's a bunch of other recent posts within this sub-forum that you can read for various honest opinions. Should help.

    Also, if you plan on sticking around CF, why not swing by the New Members board and drop us an intro - always easier to help answer questions when we know a little more about the poster :)
     
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  3. Pedrito

    Pedrito Nibble Poster

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    They might pop the question (sorta speak) but you're under no obligation to sign there and then. Its down to you to agree or disagree, not down to them!

    I only made my final decision after I felt comfortable with what they were offering as a whole.
     
    WIP: A+; N+; MCSE
  4. xfirstlostsoulx

    xfirstlostsoulx New Member

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    if i say no they wont push and push until i sign?
     
  5. tripwire45
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    tripwire45 Zettabyte Poster

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    To be fair, the job of a salesperson is to sell. Naturally, they are supposed to convince you that there product (whatever it is) is the best and worth the investment you are making. However, it is not necessarily your job to buy. If they press you to sign on the dotted line before you're ready, "just say no".

    If you need more time to evaluate the decision, take the time. It's not like they will refuse to take your money if you wait an extra week. It's your money, it's your education, and it's your career. You should be in control of it.
     
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  6. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    Don't feel pressured to agree to anything.

    It is important that you know exactly what will be involved in what they are offering to you. If they say we cover MCSE, then go to the Microsoft Website and find out what the MCSE involves.

    If they try to bamboozle you with We start you off on this, then you do that, then that, etc. Ask yourself do you think that you will feel comfortable with being constantly pressured to get one thing done to move onto the next, without fully understanding the material.

    As Jak has already said, have a look around our training and development forum and see what others have already said.

    8)
     
  7. xfirstlostsoulx

    xfirstlostsoulx New Member

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    if i say no they will accept that?

    ive been told that some salesmen push until you sign

    anybody that has had a advisor but then said no want to answer my question please?
     
  8. tripwire45
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    tripwire45 Zettabyte Poster

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    What are they going to do, hold you hostage until you sign? They can *say* anything they want but they can't actually *make* you sign. If you say "no" and they get pushy, tell them to call you in a week and escort them to the door.

    I've not had experience with IT training vendors but I have had experience with sales people. Anyone who's ever bought a car has experience with "the hard sell". You won't have a problem if you stand your ground.
     
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  9. Pedrito

    Pedrito Nibble Poster

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    The sales guy that came around asked towards the end of the meeting if I wanted to sign. I simply STATED that I am under no obligation to sign with them. He confirmed this and left it at that.


    I cannot guarantee that they won't try to push their case, but if you are not ready then there is only one answer...
     
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  10. xfirstlostsoulx

    xfirstlostsoulx New Member

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    i was told on the phone that theres no obligation but do they just say that to get you to have a meeting?

    i hope i have no problems i wont be alone when he comes so thats one thing i guess.
     
  11. Pedrito

    Pedrito Nibble Poster

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    Most definitely, Yes.

    Good advantage to feed of from.
     
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  12. xfirstlostsoulx

    xfirstlostsoulx New Member

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    Pedrito you had no problems with the advisor?
     
  13. Pedrito

    Pedrito Nibble Poster

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    Not really.

    I offered him a cuppa, he preferred a cold drink because he was always being offered teas and coffes, so I gave him some apple juice.
    We sat down.
    We had a chat about the industry in general, nothing clever just the basics, because I was still somewhat naive of the overall situation so I didn't really want to hear it from him!
    He showed me what courses were available, and specifically referred to the MCSE 2003 Certificate. I acknowledge his opinion and said I'll look into it.
    Then some more chat, mainly about holidays and golf in Portugal.
    Then, when the conversation was relaxed and flowing, he suddenly asked about signing the contract.
    I smiled, and for the rest, see above :biggrin
     
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  14. xfirstlostsoulx

    xfirstlostsoulx New Member

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    Thanks a lot for helping Pedrito
     
  15. Pedrito

    Pedrito Nibble Poster

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    No worries.

    I wish you well for tomorrow.





    Oh yeah....

    Welcome and CHEERS :beers2
     
    WIP: A+; N+; MCSE
  16. Bluerinse
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    Bear in mind that no two salesman are the same, they all have their own style and sometimes that style could be considered hard sell.

    Also be aware that an MCSE course is tough, much tougher than I anticipated. A lot of people drop out and waste their money. There are seven separate MCP exams to pass and the latter ones can be evil IMHO. Regardless of whether or not you sign up with a training provider, you will have an enormous amount of self study to do. This I didn't expect but in retrospect it is inevitable. No school could teach you everything you need to know to pass these exams. They only cover the elementary stuff and not in enough depth. You have to read books, white papers (some are hundreds of pages), and most importantly get hands on with your very own lab (home network). The MCSE is meant for experienced IT people with at least a year administrating a complex network.

    Whatever you decide good luck, but proceed with your eyes open and do not part with any money until you know what you are letting yourself in for.
     
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