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Obama Wins

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by postman, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. postman

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    Obama has won the US election as of 5am:rolleyes:

    I really need to get to bed.
     
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  2. Phoenix
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    23:00pm here, listening to the local Fox station and have the browser pointed at CNN, BBC, MSNBC, Foxnews and Pollster.com

    The local news channel is getting a lot of live feedback on twitter that they are reporting on, already heard four of my friends mentioned live :)

    Great day to be living in America if you ask me, January can't come around soon enough
     
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  3. Obinna Osobalu

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    Nothing less than a victory was never anticipated.. About time if you ask me Congrats to Obama, the Democrats, God's own country and the world whole:D
     
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  4. Ropenfold

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    I just hope he brings the changes that he promised, he's got a lot to do! Just speaking on foreign policy, he's got to be better than the current mob in charge.....:biggrin
     
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  5. twizzle

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    Arent those that make the decsisions still the same? its only the figurehead thats changed? I mean congrats on him for winning, but the senate, chiefs of staff and advisors will mainly remain the same people? How much effect does a President have over ruling the country compared to those that advise him on the correct choices? He's just teh scape goat when things go wrong, after all you need some one public enough to blame?

    And yes i'm not that into polictics etc (was it obvious?)
     
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  6. tripwire45
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    I have been thinking about whether or not I should answer "politically" but then, this thread is political by definition. Get ready for me to be "non-politically correct". I do want to make one thing clear. It is possible to not have voted for Obama and still not be a racist. It is possible to make an assessment of the people running for a political office and decide on who to vote for based on moral and ethicial issues rather than the color of a person's skin.

    That said, American born Israeli writer Naomi Ragen wrote an article on her blog that best describes my feelings on the matter. It was published on election day but before the final results were in:

    Why I Voted for John McCain.
     
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  7. dales

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    Thank god thats over and done with it seems since early this year thats all thats been on the news(and its not even our government, the only difference it will make is where we blindly send our troops too) , what a song and dance. All you really want is a list of things all the partys stand for and what they intend to do in their term if they get in. I dont care what colour or age our PM is as long as he/she and their party is sending us in a good direction (oh dear!)
     
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  8. kevicho

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    They will vote for him because they have no G-d, don’t really care what is best for Israel,

    Yawn, Why must religion be constantly dragged into these elections, these are real world problems here on Earth? Also there are "American Presidential" elections, this should be whats best for the people and Tax payers of America.

    I think obamas plans for peace talks, wether succesful or not sound like they will be more effective, as presented http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3616797,00.html in the rebuttle
     
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  9. Leehaa

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    Can totally understand your point Trip (though don't think much to that opinionated article)!!

    FFs! :dry Getting fed up with all the emphasis on the racial side of things. Yes it is a HUGE step forwards for 'black' people ...although, from a mixed - race persons point of view... technically he is just as much white as he is black, so, obviously not 'white', but why 'black'?? :blink...anyway....

    Can't people just move on now - get serious and let him get prepared for January and do the job that he has promised?? That way he can prove that he, as a 'person' is capable (or uncapable) of what he has promised...


    :unsure *runs to take cover*
     
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  10. zebulebu

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    Couldn't give a toss about any of it. Doesn't matter a shred of difference who gets in - their ability to make any sort of change on the US amounts to zero. The military and big business runs the country and always will - same as in this country and any other capitalist economy across the world. Since responsible socialism has all but disappeared in the West and Communism has proven completely ineffective due to human nature being what it is, this is what we're stuck with and no amount of speeches, tax rises/cuts or anything else will make any difference.
     
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  11. Obinna Osobalu

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    :dry Yeah right. Opinions opinions opinions!!!!!
     
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  12. Alex Wright

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    Right, so you believe Obama's a black racist that associates himself with terrorists then? :rolleyes:
     
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  13. tripwire45
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    For people of faith like myself, "religion" isn't just some adjunct set of factors that we add on to our decision making and our lifestyle. Faith defines who I am. If I don't live up to that lifestyle of faith, that's my failing and not God's. Who I vote for, along with every other decision I make, will be made based on that faith.

    Keep in mind that every in President in living memory, including Obama, has at least claimed to be Christian and has sought the "religious" vote by declaring their "faith". A secular point of view might say that there's a difference between religion and "real world problems here on Earth", but there's no disconnect between faith and life for some of us.

    I don't want to go further and add more gasoline to the fire, but it's the only answer I can give to your question.
     
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  14. Obinna Osobalu

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    Obviously we all are not enlightened as we claim to be. Like I noted earlier indiviual opinions will always come up. For me i believe that there is no difference between christains and muslims just human misconceptions. And like i read somewhere, "that war begins in the mind of those individuals who perceive diversity as a threat"
     
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  15. onoski

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    This really would not be an issue if humans act like humans and most importantly not try to play God but accept God. By this I mean we're all born sinners regardless of colour and out liberty comes thru Jesus christ.

    Flame, flame and more flame but that's the truth and it's not always sugar coated:)
     
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  16. kevicho

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    I appreciate that all candidates usually try to appeal to the followers of god, regardless of their own religious beliefs (I dont believe any politician follows religion), but it is historically documented that America was founded with the intention to keep religion out of government (seperation of church and state), while at the same time allowing people of all religions to practice safely with freedoms of speech.

    Looking at that and seeing it nowadays, and the fact that candidates have to plea to the christian vote, is proof the church has gained a high level of influence, which against the founding principles that Americans claim to love.

    Also realistically an Atheist candidate is descriminated against as plenty of polls in the past have shown that Americans wouldnt trust an Atheist to be president, which is absurd, and discriminatory.

    I have no problem with people practicing any religion, but the problem comes when religion gets involved in ethics that affect other people, such as stem cell research, euthanasia, and I hear plenty of stories where the fundamentalists are trying to push there views into law, or change education, lets face it they have plenty of money to campaign for these things.
     
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  17. Alex Wright

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    I respect *all* people that have faith, of whatever kind. But I've never understood why for example: Christians, feel the need to share it with those that are either agnostic or atheist. My eyesight's good and as far as I can see it's the source of a lot of the world's problems. Just don't know why people can't celebrate "God" privately instead of constantly trying to convert others.
     
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  18. kevicho

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    Simple really, if someone has anything they feel brings joy to themselves, then they want to share it with others, such as a nice restaurant.
     
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  19. onoski

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    Sorry if you have been offended but that's God's command and frankly the only say you have in the matter is your choice. No pun intended, but hey the truth is not sweet or is it?
     
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  20. The_Dark_Side

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    As long as George W and family are out, the world is a far better place.
    That fella was the devil himself:twisted:
     

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