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my questions do not end.. get ready(Internet with desktop and a notebook)

Discussion in 'Networks' started by kobem, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    i can not decide how i begin this but i'll try..

    my home network (not network but it will be..) consists of a notebook not new but has
    a wireless network card in it and a none-wireless desktop and a one-Ethernet port DSL modem(doesn"t
    contain wireless).

    Devices
    1- a laptop 2- a desktop 3- a DSL modem

    Problem:
    i wanna reach Internet over my desktop and my notebook at the same time. With DSL modem
    i can connect my desktop to Internet. Though problem begins here, that modem has
    only one Ethernet port.

    So i need one more network device in order to connect my notebook to Internet.
    According to you , should it be a WAP or a wireless router or a wireless modem?

    Note: During this time i do not want to remove my DSL modem from network
     
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  2. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Given you have an MSc in Computer Networking, What do you think ? :D
     
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  3. greenbrucelee
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    lol

    get a router.
     
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  4. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

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    Cheapest way is to buy a small switch. 4-port switches are *very* cheap these days.

    The only possible problem I can think of is the possibility your DSL modem is a pass-though device rather than having NAT. If this is the case then you'll need a 'cable' router.

    Harry.
     
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  5. Sparky
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  6. BosonMichael
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    I stand amazed at the failure of the educational system. How can you get ANY sort of IT networking degree, much less a Masters, and not know the purpose of a switch or a router? :ohmy

    Sorry, my mind boggles at the thought. :blink

    Kobe, I wish I knew of a way to convince you to study basic networking, such as that offered by Network+ studies, and then applying what you learn to real-life situations such as this one. I am at a loss with regards to how to provide you any guidance, and am truly saddened at the whole situation. :(
     
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  7. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    oh guyz do not start again...

    i know what access point is for and the others . However in my opinion
    both access point and a wireless router will be a solution.

    i can not realise what changes if i purchase wireless modem router or access point?

    in terms of cons and pros of these devices
     
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  8. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

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    Why not buy a switch - it will be cheaper?

    Harry.
     
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  9. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

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    Also - If you buy an access point you would also need to buy a WiFi adaptor for the PC.

    Harry.
     
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  10. dmarsh

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    I have a cable modem, its analogus to a DSL modem in your example.

    I went out and bought a cheap Wireless router, this provides Wi-Fi for my lappy.

    It acts as a basic switch with 4 Wired ethernet ports for desktops.

    It acts as a basic firewall.

    It performs basic NAT.

    It does not require ditching my Cable modem as it provides an 'Upstream' or ethernet WAN link to my modem.


    However since you are on DSL, it would be simpler to just buy a combined ADSL Wireless router, this does everything in one neat little box. You can then ditch the DSL modem !

    I'd rip your MSc up, ask you college for a refund and go spend £200 on CBT Nuggets Network+ CBT...
     
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  11. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    why?


    i do not want get to my PC wireless-connected
    only just my notebook and it has the wi-fi feature
     
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  12. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    switch? how will become "wireless" then?
     
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  13. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

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    The AP has to plug in somewhere. You only have one Ethernet socket on your modem, so when you plug the AP in there the PC no longer has a connection!

    Harry.
     
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  14. hbroomhall

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    You didn't specify in your original posting that everything should be wireless. This is why I suggested a switch. I assumed that the laptop had an Ethernet socket. If this isn't the case then getting a wireless router would be the way forward.

    Harry.
     
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  15. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    No! i "only want "my notebook" wireless connected. That's why you told me about my PC(desktop)
    get wireless adaptor , i said no.
     
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  16. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    yeah you are right i didn"t think this:twisted:
     
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  17. BosonMichael
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    Sorry, Kobe... but if you didn't ask extremely basic networking questions, we wouldn't tell you the same thing again and again and again. You might not think we're trying to help... but really, we are. I wish you would just once give it a try and see that what we're saying is true.
     
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  18. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

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    Given that plus the original info I'd suggest getting a wireless 'cable' router then. As others have suggested.

    Harry.
     
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  19. zebulebu

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    Kobem - you need one of these:

    [​IMG]

    Welcome back old son :biggrin
     
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  20. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    hey what a nice surprise it is...:biggrin:biggrin

    and that screen belongs to me oh my God:D:D


    as a conclusion , thanks
     
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