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Latest visa scam

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Angus, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. Angus

    Angus Nibble Poster

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    I got this today so will pass it on. Sorry dont have time to remove all the breaks...aj

    I received the following information from a member of staff and having

    >had a need to talk to Visa last week on a similar incident, I can

    >confirm that this is happening. At this time of year approaching

    >Christmas, please take note and be aware.

    >

    >"Please pass on to all people on your mailing list. I got this from a

    >contact in the Halifax Visa team so it is happening!!

    >

    >Visa and MasterCard Scam. A friend was called on the telephone this

    >week from 'VISA' and I was called on Thursday from 'MasterCard'.

    >

    >It worked like this: Person calling says, 'this is Carl Patterson (any

    >name) and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA.

    >My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual

    >purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. Did you purchase an

    >Anti-Telemarketing Company a device/any expensive item, for £497.99 from

    >a marketing company based in (any town?)

    >

    >When you say 'No'. The caller continues with, 'Then we will be issuing

    >a credit to your Account. This is a company we have been watching and

    >the charges range from £297 To £497, just under the £500 purchase

    >pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit

    >will be sent to (they give you your address), is that correct?'

    >

    >You say, 'Yes'. The caller continues . . 'I will be starting a fraud

    >investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800

    >number listed on your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer

    >to this Control number. They then give you a 6-digit number. 'Do you

    >need me to read it again?'

    >

    >Caller then says he 'needs to verify you are in possession of your

    >

    >card' (this is where the scam takes place as up until now they have

    >requested nothing!). They then ask you to turn your card over.

    >

    >There are 7numbers; the first 4 are 1234 (or whatever, as they have your

    >number anyway).

    >

    >The next 3 are the security numbers that verify that you are in

    >possession of the card' (these are the numbers they are really after as

    >these are the numbers you use to make internet purchases to prove you

    >have the card).

    >

    >'Read me the 3 numbers.' When you do he says 'That is correct. I just

    >needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you

    >still have your card. Do you have any other questions? Don't hesitate

    >to call back if you do.'

    >

    >You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the

    >Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we telephoned back

    >within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA

    >security department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a

    >new purchase of £497.99 WAS put on our card. Long story made short.

    >

    >We made a real fraud report, closed the VISA card and they are

    >reissuing us a new number. What the scam wants is the 3-digit number and

    >that once the charge goes through, they keep changing every few days. By

    >the time you get your statement, you think the credit is coming, and

    >then it's harder to actually file a fraud report.

    >

    >THE REAL VISA/MASTERCARD DEPARTMENT REINFORCED THE POINT THAT THEY WILL

    >NEVER ASK FOR ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARD SINCE THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING

    >ABOUT IT!!!!.
     
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  2. AJ

    AJ Administrator Administrator

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    Thanks for that Angus, I shall pass that around at work tomorrow :thumbleft
     
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  3. noelg24

    noelg24 Terabyte Poster

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    well it just goes to show how far these idiots will go just to get your credit card details...how pathetic...just cos they get refused or they just want to make other people who are honest and make a decent living look bad...thanks for that..
     
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  4. nugget
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    nugget Junior toady

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    Sorry guys but if you fall for this type of social engineering then you really deserve it. If people actually used their brains a bit more then these types of scams would be much harder to perpetrate.
     
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  5. wizard

    wizard Petabyte Poster

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    Well not everyone is that savvy, even those who think that they are can still fall for these scams.
     
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  6. Phoenix
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    Phoenix 53656e696f7220 4d6f64

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    im with nuggets, i think the idiots are not the ones pulling the scam (they are clearly quite smart) the idiots are the ones falling for it, if your savvy enough to have a credit card, a computer, a net connection, you should get enough common sense not to fall for such blatant fruad

    a good bit of darwinism is needed about now i think, cleanse the gene pool a bit :)
     
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  7. Jakamoko
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    Jakamoko On the move again ...

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    Just to play Devils Advocate here, I recently had a case where I busted a guy who's domain we were hosting, who was pulling of one of these scams.


    He was sending mail purporting to be from e-bay, and dammit, the mails were unbeleivably convincing. Only a screwed-down net user with his eyes open alerted us to his actions, and I instantly shut him down, but I would defy many people who actually received a copy of that email not to have at least been seriously swayed by it.

    Just by 2€
     
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