just an interesting question

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hey people i came back! with new hard questions

i want to learn this : for example think of a hotel network
and i want to put some network devices in it . There are cisco
switches and some other basic switches in the world.

when i try to build a hotel network , do i have to use
powerful switches such as cisco switches or basic switches ?

.............

Considering that you didn't get what i said above , i give
a new example.

when you have a home network and going to the internet
you can use dsl routers (not a real router exactly , have many ports only but they are not as powerful as
cisco 2600 , 3200 ones


and in a hotel should i use cisco routers ?

 

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depends on how many uses, what functions you want and if its wired/wireless or both

grim

 

Depends on how much data is flowing, and how important it is to keep your network running smoothly.

 

did you really get my question ?

if so , can you explain me a bit clear?

 

The reason that you aren't getting cut-and-dried answers is that we don't have much to go on from your original question. After all, there are small family hotels with 4 rooms, and somewhat bigger ones with a thousand....

Cisco routers are not that special (ducking the missiles...) - you will always be able to find ones by other manufacturers that are cheaper that do a similar job. With cisco, you are not so much paying for the router's capability, you are paying for its reliability, its capacity, and especially for the SUPPORT. Someone gave me a quick and ready reckoner idea once: if the router fails, how much money will you lose per hour thereafter: based on that, you can decide if you want to pay thousands for a cisco router and 4-hour guaranteed uptime support, or pay hundreds for a SOHO model that has 24 or 48 hour support, or less for just a spare to keep in a cupboard.

If I ran a 4-room hotel, I guess I'd go for the cisco option.....

 

OK ! think that it is a university campus!

will dsl 4 port routers be enough for this? or should i use
a cisco router for internet connection in campus ?

(note : i am talking on "WIRED" not "WIRELESS"

 

DSL routers *are* routers. But I fail to see why you need such items here.

You just aren't giving enough info. How big is the campus? How many outlets are required? What bandwidth useage is expected? What is the total distance accross the campus?

All these things are important to the final design.

Harry.

 

all you did was change the location. i am going to go with this answer because from what i understand you are asking if a basic 4 -16 port switch / router from, say linksys, would be enough. i would say for a 4 bedroom bed and breakfast type of place yes. for a normal sized hotel no i would go with professional level equipment, i would probably go with HP procurve items as i've grown to enjoy using them. plus with a normal sized hotel or even better a college campus, you will need far more than just a basic setup. if i go look at my rack right now we have probably 30-50 switches or better connecting our servers and our remote locations. at each of our remote locations they have their own switches that feed their local campus. please keep in mind that we've got a little over 100 servers in the NOC and about 300 total on the network all supporting roughly 21k computers.

hope this helps some.

 

you nearly got me but not completely , man!

you mentioned increasing the number of them in medium or large buildings BUT in a normal sized hotel should i use
linksys switches or more stronger cisco switches?

 

Looks like you didn't really get my very basic answer.

Worth the price of admission, every single time.

 

Kobem,

Man, you need to have some basic understanding of what you're talking about before you start jumping into the middle of things. Like Zebulebu, I'm coming to the conclusion that you very well may be conducting some rather off-the-wall social experiment.

If you are not, well, I really don't understand your insistence on jumping into exceedingly complex issues time after time for it is blindingly obvious have you no knowledge of the issues at stake whatsoever. If you really want to understand anything about what you're trying to do you need to educate yourself on these subjects. If you don't, the only thing at which you will succeed at in the end is in making yourself appear to be a fool. I say that, not to be cruel, but to help you understand that you need to study. These are not issues that anyone, and I mean anyone, no matter what their IQ, no matter how smart they are, can understand unless they first study the principles that these topics you are asking about are built on.

IT isn't easy. It's very difficult, and only small portion of world has the ability to succeed in it. It takes a certain kind of individual, and a certain level of a certain type of intelligence. I'm not saying that you cannot be that person, only that so far you haven't shown it to be so.

When I first considered entering this field I was so ignorant about all of it that I thought I actually knew something because I had installed software on my Windows 98 computer and re-installed the operating system a few times. Man, was I self-deluded. I was too ignorant to even understand how ignorant I was. It's taken me years to grasp the underlying fundamentals of things, and I still do not know many of these areas in-depth. Nobody can know all of it. There is simply too much for any one person to absorb, because these are not easy subjects to grasp at all levels. There are many levels of abstraction and these require great concentration and time to fully understand. It is no accident that there are few, if any, people who master programming, system administration, networking, web development, security, etc... all at the same time. The reason being, there is so much to know in any one of these fields that unless the person has an IQ of well over 200 they will never be able to master more than one field, and it will still take years of effort to master just one field.

So, please give yourself a break. Start studying. Make Google your friend, and if you have the money, start buying books. Ask for recommendations on the books you need for the topics you are interested in. Ask what foundations of knowledge you need to get to where you want to go. You will never regret the decision. I know I haven't, and I can see no possible future in which I would ever regret learning.

 

There are times where I feel that i have to break my own rules.

This is one of them and I...

QFT.

J.

 

Sometimes, the truth is so overwhelming, you have no choice but to quote it for emphasis.

 

Damn, nearly did it again.

But once is enough, you know how addictive it is, and it spreads like wildfire.



J.

 

QFT, my friend... QFT.