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Discussion in 'New Members Introduction' started by moontan, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. moontan

    moontan New Member

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    Hi everybody, I have been considering a career in IT and dunno where to start. I have had a chat with an Advent representative, for doing a Advance Net working specialist (MCSE), and the cost is hard to swallow :eek:, but i suppose " need to break egg to make an omlette.

    I was thing are there anyway else to get certified or training in this subject.

    I would be greatfull for the input.


    Cheers
     
    WIP: comptia A+
  2. loneferret

    loneferret Byte Poster

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    Welcome to the board.
    As for what route to take to get into IT, well you'll get a lot of different opinions here.

    Depending on where you are located, and your age I'd suggest going to school.
    Go for entry level certifications such as Network+ / A+ / MCDST. These 3 are a pretty good start.
    No sense spending for a MCSE if you've never actually worked in an IT environment.
    Try to get an entry level position, such as helpdesk work say for an ISP. Computer Tech for your
    local computer store... you get the picture.

    So basically, going for you MCSE now would be like... trying to complete college without have done
    elementary school.

    Read the forum, ask questions and read some more. No one can tell you what to do, but believe me
    there's a lot of experience here I suggest you listen.

    Good luck, and again welcome.
     
    Certifications: MCDST/N+/L+/i-Net+/CIW/OSCP/OSCE
    WIP: MCTS 70-662
  3. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

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    Hi & welcome to CF :)

    Please don't tell me that you've fallen for sales talk...

    The MCSE is not an entry level certification and is not a substitute for experience. The best advice that I can give is to concentrate on the entry level/level 1 certifications like the A+, network+ and the MCDST while at the same time sending out your CV/cover letter to job vancances.

    And to be totally honest the amount that you would pay on one of those courses would be better spent on a degree if you had that much cash available...

    -Ken
     
    Certifications: CITP, PGCert, BSc, HNC, LCGI, PTLLS, MCT, MCITP, MCTS, MCSE, MCSA:M, MCSA, MCDST, MCP, MTA, MCAS, MOS (Master), A+, N+, S+, ACA, VCA, etc... & 2nd Degree Black Belt
    WIP: PGDip
  4. greenbrucelee
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    Hi Welcome:)

    What has been said is true, having the MCSE but not the required server admin experience in a job can go against you when looking for a job. You should be looking at the A+,N+ and MCDST

    These sales people will say anything to get your cash.
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  5. drum_dude

    drum_dude Gigabyte Poster

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    or CDL!

    Advance Networking specialist (MCSE) - they really do come up with some exotic names!
     
    Certifications: MCSA , N+, A+ ,ITIL V2, MCTS
    WIP: MCITP 2008 Ent Admin, Server Admin, Exchange 2010, Lync 2010, CCNA & VCP5
  6. moontan

    moontan New Member

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    Hi Guys thank you for your advise, so where does one go and get these certs or qualifications. Do colleges have them? or evening classes, i have seen you can buy book in Amazon.

    thanks again for your input :D
     
    WIP: comptia A+
  7. loneferret

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    Buying the books off amazon is a good start. Usually the book will give you a website addy
    to organizations that are approuved to give the exam. Prometric, Vue etc. Search google
    or this forum. The answers you are looking for are all here...
    Good luck
     
    Certifications: MCDST/N+/L+/i-Net+/CIW/OSCP/OSCE
    WIP: MCTS 70-662
  8. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

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    The course material, you can either go to college (provided they do them) in blocks or in evening sessions. Or you can self study them.

    For the actual certification, you will have to sit the exam(s) at a Vue/Prometric testing centre (some colleges are them). Then you'll get the cert from the exam vendor (eg Microsoft, Comptia, etc).

    -ken
     
    Certifications: CITP, PGCert, BSc, HNC, LCGI, PTLLS, MCT, MCITP, MCTS, MCSE, MCSA:M, MCSA, MCDST, MCP, MTA, MCAS, MOS (Master), A+, N+, S+, ACA, VCA, etc... & 2nd Degree Black Belt
    WIP: PGDip
  9. supernova

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    The Advance Net working specialist (MCSE) does include the A+, MCDST, MCSA and MCSE

    However, i agree without the experiance the time scale is too short

    Advent costs aren't too bad as a commercial package when you include everything else they provide the workshops are most of the costs, if you dont plan to use them then its a waste.

    I agree local college courses or college evening classes sound good and you meet people.
     
    Certifications: Loads
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  10. moontan

    moontan New Member

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    Hi Guys,

    How relevant is the ECDL course? I was looking at that too, it seems a good way to rush up on basic knowledge.
     
    WIP: comptia A+
  11. onoski

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    Hi and welcome to CF:, ECDL is good as it covers MS office applications etc.
     
    Certifications: MCSE: 2003, MCSA: 2003 Messaging, MCP, HNC BIT, ITIL Fdn V3, SDI Fdn, VCP 4 & VCP 5
    WIP: MCTS:70-236, PowerShell

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