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Is the windows 8 MCSA cert pointless?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista / 7 / 8 Client Exams' started by Juelz, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. Juelz

    Juelz Gigabyte Poster

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    I would preferably want to get the windows 7 cert but thats set to expire in Jan 14 which sucks, and I havent heard of many businesses using windows 8 and I doubt its going to impress an employer
     
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  2. RichyV

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    Hi,

    No it doesn't - it's only the MCITP cert that is being retired - the exams will still be available and you will instead earn the MCSA cert for the same exam-passes.

    Keep an eye on my thread, here:

    http://www.certforums.com/forums/wi...ows-client-exams-retiring-next-12-months.html

    To keep up to date with the latest retirement schedule...

    HTH
     
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  3. Juelz

    Juelz Gigabyte Poster

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    I dont know if I said it wrong.. Im talking about this cert MCSA: Windows 7 Certification | Microsoft

    when does this retire then? They have already stoped offering it at my college :(
     
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  4. RichyV

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    Really?? It's the brand new offering of the MCSA, and MS have no plans to retire it at the moment. Maybe your college only has sufficient resources to offer one course and, as Win8 is new, they're moving over to it...

    Seems a strange choice when, as you say, in the workplace Win8 won't be appearing much for a while.
     
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  5. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    Don't bother doing it at college. Buy book. Read book. Do lab. Sit exam. Pass. Smile. :)
     
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  6. Juelz

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    Do you really think its do able from someone who has no knowledge of windows 7 lol... the course im doing at college looks at windows 7 abit tho.. if you could recommend me some learning resources I'd be grateful
     
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  7. SimonD

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    Just get a book that covers the exam topics, play with the OS and learn about the different Enterprise technologies that you could be used with the desktop OS (MDT, SCCM, SCOM can all interact with the desktop).

    The exam isn't really that hard and with enough time reading the book, playing with the OS and confidence that you know the subject matter then yes, you can pass the exam.
     
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  8. Juelz

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    Thanks is there a book you can recommend? I looked on amazon and they have a self-paced training kit, but that seems to have alot of negative reviews.
     
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  9. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    If you want to get a taster of what the MS Press books are like (the older ones were awful by the way, IMO, but the newer ones are snippier and to the point, much more tech-friendly) then do a free trial at Safari Books. I subscribe to the service as it gives me access to pretty much any tech book I could ever want to read. If you prefer physical books just look them over, make sure you're happy with the content, then ditch the trial and buy the book.

    You're not going to get any better experience than getting hands on yourself. At a college you will go at the pace of this wonderful equation
    : "Tutor Speed x Lag Speed of Worst Student" (TM) me, just now.

    I find your aptitude will increase as you'll be forced to find the answers; they won't be spoon-fed to you. You can explore more indepth too, you won't be restricted by the "curriculum" the college offers. And, as you're discovering, they're binning certs ridiculously early too.
     
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  10. B33 ENN

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    Pretty much agree, but I would add that it depends a lot on your own personality as to which approach is best. Some folk are better at studying if on a course because it can pace their learning; provide an external source for the discipline to help them maintain the commitment; and the social aspect of being in a group can be constructive to the psychological aspect of motivation.

    For example, I took a two tier approach: one side home learning certificates, and the other side at college courses. I felt the home learning could slip over time with distractions, sags in motivation, etc. Backing it up with a college course was like an insurance policy to ensure I had some external pressure to see it through.
     
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  11. Juelz

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    Iyt thanks peeps.. is there any news of the MCSA win7 expirey date as I need atleast 3-4 months to study
     
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  12. RichyV

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    All expirations for the next 12 months are announced in advance, and it does not appear on this list. So, you must have at least 12 months - but I'd say longer.
     
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  13. Juelz

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    Thanks alot Im going to buy a cheap windows 7 refurbished computer to work on and hopefully find a good enough book (if one exists)
     
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  14. Jiser

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    My has just bought in Windows 8 on tablets for our corp team (local government) quite a few bugs....can imagine we will be upgrading three separate councils soon with W8 by end of next year.
     
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  15. Josiahb

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    We've got Win 8 rolling out to some clients already, I can only see numbers increasing over the next few months. That and a flurry of last minute SBS server upgrades before SBS 2011 is removed from sale completely.

    We've not had much buggy behaviour in the environments we support as far as Windows 8 is concerned, most of the issues seem to actually be down to clients refusing to replace ageing 2003 servers.

    All that being said I'd still go for the Win 7 MCSA and then just upgrade to Win 8 later on, that way your covered either way.
     
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