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Ime in ur thredz getting pizzed off with ur gramma

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by juice142, Sep 1, 2007.

  1. juice142

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    IT'S RANT TIME!

    Lesson one: The apostrophe.

    Now this is well easy, anyone can get this.

    If it belongs to someone, say Carl, it is Carl's car.

    If there is a letter missed out then Carl's in the pub (missing the 'i' out of is).

    If there is more than one person (plural) and the things belong to them then the apostrophe comes at the end.

    The parsons' noses.

    There is no apostrophe just because there is more than one.

    No CD's. It is CDs.

    There is no apostrophe just because there is an s s'omewhere in the word.

    It's (missing out the 'i') easy.

    Lesson two: They, there's, theirs.

    If it belongs to them, it's theirs.

    If it's over there then it's over there.

    If there is something over there and it's theirs, well let them have it. There's (see above) something over there and it belongs to them. It's theirs.

    Now, I could have not made this post. I also could've made this post. I certainly could not 'of' made this post.

    Anyone commits these crimes in their CV goes straight in my bin.

    Rant over...

    Unless you guys have any more howlers that you'd like to share? :ohmy

    J. (with feeling).
     
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  2. Bluerinse
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    Thanks Juice, some good explanations there!
     
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  3. rax

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    Can I just add: There's a big problem with people miss-using "to" and "too".

    To: I want to do, I want to go to the shop, I wanted to see them, sometimes I just don't know what to do, Do you want to come and play.

    Too: It's too big to carry, It's too scary to go in there, I want to go too, it's too small to see

    Feel free to add to this, it's 5.47am and I'm late for work :p :blink
     
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  4. greenbrucelee
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    I don't think people can't do it, its just the way people type.
     
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  5. wagnerk
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    Writing whole sentences in text speak, now that really gets me :x

    I don't mind the odd word here or there once in a while, but for every word... I've had to send e-mails/letters back asking them to write in english.

    -ken
     
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  6. greenbrucelee
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    I agree Ken, email in text speak is a big no no in my book.
     
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    People who post on here asking for "advise"...what's wrong with "advice"?
     
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  8. wagnerk
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    “Advice” is the noun, “advise” the verb. When Ann Landers advises people, she gives them advice.

    For reference page, see here.

    -ken
     
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  9. Fergal1982

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    You know something, whilst I agree that I hate improper spelling and grammar to a certain extent. Im beginning to find im being bugged just a little more with threads like this to be honest.

    For a start, its time for you to grow up and recognise that a lot of people dont have the same standard of written english as you. Have some tolerance for gods sake. You wouldnt go up to a paraplegic and start on at them about learning to walk damn it, would you? No. In the same light, quite a few people cant spell, either because they are dyslexic, never managed to get their head round it (They are doers, not thinkers for example), or perhaps even because (shock horrors) they had a poor education for whatever reason.

    Get a grip guys. If you dont like how someone writes, dont read their damn posts. This forum is here for everyone who wants to study for IT certifications. Just because they cant write to your arbitrary standard, why should they be denied membership in this community?

    EDIT: You might also want to remember that for some members, English isnt their first language. Cut them some slack!
     
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  10. wagnerk
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    Remember mate, the heading of this section:

    The Lounge - Off Topic:
    Got something meaningful to say or do you just want a moan ? This forum is strictly for off-topic discussions.

    And I have to say that alot of foreign people whose first language isn't English can speak better than alot of kids today. This post isn't gunning for anyone, it was posted as a general "rant" to what annoys us.

    And added to that, I really hate people who leave their indicators on for a mile & passing roads to their left (almost cause an accident - like I saw today), more than people who don't use their indicators at all.

    -ken
     
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    Hey guys,

    Remember not all of us are native speakers. I myself am Dutch. For me English is a foreign language. Maybe you need to try to crank out a post in Dutch or French or German without any mistakes.
     
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    I would love to but my German is worse than my English, by the way I'm German - so I do understand about the international language barrier. :D

    -Ken
     
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    Maybe we won't, this is a forum that conducts its business in english.

    I agree with Ken, this post is a rant in an area of the forum that is for off-topic posts such as this one!


    Ken, plz advice me on how to use the forum spell-checker? :p
     
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    Thanks Ken, you've got the right end of the stick! :thumbleft

    This thread is most certainly not aimed at anyone in particular, and definitely not dyslexics or those whose first language is not English.

    It is my opinion that the lack of grammar in the UK at the moment is not down to disability or poor schooling. It is simple laziness. And I'm trying to point out that if a few simple rules are learnt (and CF is all about learning, right?) that the chances of getting and keeping the job of your dreams will increase.

    If we can't be bothered to communicate effectively, will our attitudes to other things be similarly sloppy? :dry

    No offense is meant to anyone by this thread.

    Cheers,

    J.
     
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    see, its all good and well saying 'this is an off topic forum' and 'no offense is meant to anyone', but at the end of the day thats like me posting in this same forum something ridiculous like 'i hate gingers - buy some damn hair dye!' and then saying 'no offense meant to anyone'. it does and will offend people, saying you didnt mean it doesnt make it less offensive.

    so your saying that if i spyk lyk dis, then my attitudes elsewhere are going to be sloppy? i cant help thinking that thats prejudiced really. Again, thats like saying that if i cant be bothered to wash dishes until i need them, then im a bad techie/programmer.

    In my last job I turned up wearing casual shirts (the kind you might wear for a night out). Its not professional, and falls into the kind of category that you might call 'sloppy' but i was still DAMN good at my job. (The employer didnt really care that I wore those things, but thats not the point)
     
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    The occasional typo is understandable. After all, I generate enough of them. I agree with Ken that writing large (or even small) chunks of content in text-speak is just plain laziness. I also agree with Tinus that since we are an international forum, we attract people for whom English is their second language and mistakes are bound to creep in.

    The moral of the story is to be tolerant of human mistakes and language barriers but to correct those people who strip the English language down to the lowest common denominator just because they can.
     
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    My post wasn't aimed in an offensive manner!

    Pointing out the error in which people miss-use "to" and "too" and the way I gave examples was to be a helpful addition not an attack.

    It doesn't bother me when people use it wrongly, I just happen to notice it happens a lot and pointed it out.

    My English is far from being good!

    D
     
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    :biggrin hehe, I think I resemble this.
     
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    As I said earlier, I actually found the information Juice posted to be informative and useful. My English grammar knowledge is sadly lacking due to a very poor education. In a nutshell, the school I attended was utter crap. So, I see this thread as giving a few pointers to those common mistakes which people make because they may be unaware of the correct usage.
     
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    in a way, we all do Mitzs, people just need to remember that we make the odd mistake...ok some of us may go too far sometimes but hey we're only human. I myself can be a bit lazy when typing something...but I dont make a habit of it. But not many people care about grammer or spelling these days. Yes I can also point out errors to other people but then I realise I do it myself so who am I to judge?
     
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