Huge pirate music site shut down

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Anti-Piracy is a business in its self - lots of independent companies have sprung up in recent years - their purpose is to track down Internet piracy. They monitor P2P networks, gather evidence and sell it to the RIAA etc.

Apparently Internet piracy is to blame for "the fledgeling music industry" - after 6 years of this kind of news I note that the record companies are still making LOTS of money?

This is just my opinion of course - but it's good to see that a lot of artists are using free distribution methods such as the Internet to get noticed. Record companies aren't scared of Internet piracy; it's the Internet its self that they are afraid of! The Internet cuts out a lot of the cling-ons etc!

I'd buy an MP3 album for £5 rather then spend £14 on the media in the shops. But as I'm a mobile DJ I have no option but to pay full price for my CDs. Copies are unacceptable when your DJ-ing at a wedding as people like to see your "CDs".

 

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I'm not trying to upset fellow members of the site, just saying that we have all breached a copyright at some point in our life.

 

In what way does that justify anyone doing so, particularly willful breach of a copyright?

 

BM you're wasting your brainpower! Doing something you shouldn't i.e. downloading illegal mp3s but keeping quiet about it is one thing; but trying to justify it on a forum by using a "well everybody else has done it" type excuse is truly astounding! About as astounding as diving into a post without reading the background of the post - that being the link Mitz posted!

JonGlory, I must refer you to this

Enjoy! D

 

LoL it all makes sense now, thank you so much for showing me the way . I know next time not to question anything you post. Don't want to waste anyones brainpower, although that's in insult in its self. You should maybe make that your homepage.

I have never justified downloading illegal mp3's, or said its ok to do so, just find it funny that the first couple of posts were all "great news, and they are fools blah blah blah", when we have all done it. Yeah maybe not to the extent of the guys that run the site, but still.

Anyway I'll leave this thread i think made my point.

 

Umm... sorry, mate... I've never illegally downloaded an MP3 file... so we haven't "all done it."

 

Drum that is just too funny! Dumb ass crack me up. Good one drum!!!

 

I'm not having a pop at you in a serious way at all; I just think your responses are very odd! The steam link I posted was to highlight the "thinking about what you post in relation to the topic being discussed". It was nothing personal - just a bit of fun.

I'm truly sorry if I upset you and I will clean Trip's car every Sunday in order to make things right (dependent on whether he pays the air fare of course).

 

Mitzs, that steam video has to be made a sticky in the New Members section of all forums!!! I love it and it always makes me laugh

 

No probs drum_dude. No offence taken

Peace

 

Wow. Interesting thread. I've never downloaded music in my life (I'm old fashioned enough to like/need CDs). My kids have iPods, but I've never owned one. I guess by default that means I've never illegally downloaded music. I don't think I can add any more to what's been said except "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time".

 

Has anyone not recorded a program from TV onto a video tape in their life? That is actually a form of copyright theft, the tv company pays for the right to show the film, you have not paid the rights to copy it though...

However since tapes and tape recorders are publicly available it is an accepted and ignored form of piracy.
(How many times in years gone have you recorded something off TV and had your mates round to watch it, or lent your video to a friend?)
I know its not on the same level as what these people did and i totally agree with what they are getting as a result from it, just thought id chip in with something i was told a while ago that made me think.

 

I don't think people realise that there are in fact many many ways to break copywright law without realising it. Here's a couple of examples ...

Ever recorded a film onto VHS or a DVD Recorder from the TV so you can watch it later? Ever recorded a song off the radio onto a tape (ok I'm going back a bit now ). Ever lent a DVD to a mate after watching it so they can as well? Ok the last one isn't a breach of copywright law, but it's still against the T&C's of virtual all commercial DVD's / VHS's.

I'm with Jon on this one really. I'm not in any way advocating the deliberate breaching of copywright law, but certainly I think it would be almost impossible to find someone who hasn't at some point (knowingly or not).

I certainly had no idea that the guy running the music site in question was making money out of it. Since that is now obvious, then it's right that it should be shut down.

I do think that many of the large music conglomorates are now getting very scared indeed of the internet and the fact that artists are starting to realise they no longer have to lose a huge cut of the price of a CD and instead can distribute their music on their own terms. eg see this link.

There was an interesting incedent with Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails, great band!) a few months ago in Australia on this very subject ...

 

When you buy blank media there is indeed a Private copying levy included in the price - also copying stuff for PRIVATE use is not copyright infringement. So the arguments that you put that imply that people who copy films etc for their own private use are breaking copyright laws is not entirely true I'm afraid! If that were indeed the case we'd all be in the slammer - BM included

What none of you seem to understand is that it's always WIN WIN WIN for our entertainment company shareholders and board members!

An explanation of Private Copying Levy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy

 

The UK and Ireland are not part of this scheme ... or Australia for that matter.

Edit: Also, it would appear that in most countries if you do record something to watch at a later time (this is the only definition by which it is legal to do so) then you can then only watch it once. So if you watch it while you are recording it, and then subsequently watch the recording, then you have just broken copyright law. Also if you watch it more than once you have also broken copyright law. You must delete the recording after watching it once, oh and even rewinding a section and watching it again is technically a breach ...

 

Yes it's not in the UK but I believe spain voted for this tax in 2006 - but taking into account that Canada and the US are subject to it I would say that the fledgling copyright holders are making a mint out of such a tax! With 17.5% VAT on top of our media I don't think Labour have the balls to introduce such a tax!

 

I'd have to agree that if you want to watch a show on TV (at least in the US) and you can't be sitting in front of the TV at the time the show airs, you can record it on tape and watch it later without violating copyright laws. Now, if you invite 20 or 30 of your neighbors over to watch the show with you and you charge them $5 a head to view the show, *that* would probably be a violation.

 

i download all my tv episodes because the UK is behind the US, although it used to be months its now only weeks but still i like to watch them when i want to watch them not when they want to show them. I cant wait until its all on demand then i can save them to my sky box

grim