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Graphics Card Problem / PC Going to Standby

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Stuzzle, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. Stuzzle

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    Perhappppps someone could offer some advice please :)

    Upon starting to type this topic I'm now wondering if it even is the graphics card at all, that was what I always assumed...but anyway...


    The 2nd pc in the house that we use for LAN gaming can be a bit unstable at times during games.
    Randomly it will crash with the screen going blank/the monitor going into standby and stating "No Signal" but yet the sound will continue. It doesn't happen at definate moments just randomly, and is quite annoying half way through a UT2004 match. My housemate found that Alt-tabbing can get us back to the windows desktop, but then often we cannot alt-tab back into the game.

    It's running XP Pro with a Radeon 9200 (I think). I considered buying a different graphics card for it, but seeing as we can alt-tab back into windows I am now wondering if it is a graphics card problem at all?? Or perhaps just a problem the card has when running at high capacity (as opposed to just displaying windows)?


    Perhaps someone has some experience or can shed some ideas on this? Like I say, it is problematic that it doesnt happen at definate times, so is difficult to test any fixes
     
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  2. wagnerk
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    First question...

    Have you applied/installed all the updates for UT2003, your Graphics card and Windows?

    Second question...

    What res is the game running in on the PC that is black screening? Have you tried lowering the res?

    -Ken
     
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    Have you visited the Radeon site, downloaded and installed the latest drivers for that card?
     
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    Mmm. Didn't Wagnerk already cover this?
     
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    Sort of, but i thought i would use the correct terminology and advise the OP where to go :p
     
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    THe symptoms you describe seem to me to be more of a wrong resolution setting rather than a broken gpu. It could be that the settings used in the game are too high for that particular card.

    I would follow whats already been said, make sure all drivers and patches are upto date, make sure your using a normal resolution that makes windows easily visible for you.

    I am not sure with ATi cards but with Nvidia you have a piece of software where you can adjust the cards settings if ATi have a similar app go into and select the adjust for best appearance or whatever it maybe called. The next time your game loads it should have been adjusted to whatever the ATi app has set the res at and you will be able to see if you get anymore problems.

    Doing these things will eliminate the card being broken or on it's way out.
     
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  7. wagnerk
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    It may also be the way the game is rendered, you can try changing it from from Direct 3d to OpenGL by:

    Opening up C:\UT2003\system\UT2003.ini (changing C:\UT2003\ to wherever you installed UT2003.)

    Find the following line:

    [Engine.Engine]

    Underneath that you will see these 3 lines:

    RenderDevice=D3DDrv.D3DRenderDevice
    ;RenderDevice=Engine.NullRenderDevice
    ;RenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice

    Change this to read:

    ;RenderDevice=D3DDrv.D3DRenderDevice
    ;RenderDevice=Engine.NullRenderDevice
    RenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice

    If it doesn't work, just change the setting back to what they were.

    Saying that, it may be an intermittant fault on the graphics card or it may be the you need a fresh Windows install...

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    Is it just UT2004 you are having the problems with or is it other games as well?
     
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  9. Stuzzle

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    Hi everyone thanks for the responses

    I have Windows all updated and the drivers on the graphics card have been updated through Windows (as opposed to going straight to the ATI site)

    I dont know the resolution it is running at off by heart, I will check when I get home

    No it is not just UT2004 this is happening in, it can also happen in the middle of Command & Conquer Generals gameplay or less than 2 minutes into the start of Farcry 1 etc etc
     
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    First off as said before update the graphics card drivers BUT from ATI as windows update installs crap basic drivers for the cards. Also double check your ram because it may be possible that you either have literally just enough to start up the games but when a real graphic and ram demanding part comes along the systems stability becomes compromised.

    run a copy of Memtest which you sould be able to get hold of through google.

    Also it may be worthwile as sed before to reinstall windows as time to time it can start having similar issues as to what your having.

    AS its an ATI card make sure you have catalyst installed and are using that and not windows display management to set resolution refresh rate etc.

    hope you get this sorted but if need any more help after tryin all that dont hesitate to ask
     
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  11. Sparky
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    In almost all cases I would suggest going to the ATI site and getting the drivers from there. I would give that a shot just now and see if there is an updated driver available.

    I did have a problem with a CAD application crashing a while back on a customers network and all of the PCs were running the latest driver from nVidia however when I ran Windows update on the PCs it downloaded a different driver and fixed the problem. This is the *only* time I have found the driver from Windows update fix a problem in comparison to the drivers from the vendors site.

    If it still doesnt work after that is there any other drivers you havent updated such as the chipset driver for the mobo.

    Finally is there anything in the event logs after the game bombs out?
     
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    Is it just games it does it in? It could be getting to the point of over heating.
     
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  13. Stuzzle

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    Thanks for the replies everyone I shall give these all a try and then hopefully the problem will dissapear, ickle just take a while to test :)

    Sparky - No I have not checked the events log, I shall have a gander next time it occurs

    Gingerdave - Yeah it is just on games
     
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