Favourite music/artist

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& why

I love all different types and genres of music. George Benson, even some Billie Holiday, Marlin Manson (don't laugh - and I'm no goth) Isley Brothers, Samantha Janus but if you had to pick one spesific artist you place above all others who would it be and why?

My choice would have to be rapper Tupac Shakur and for a number of reasons:

• Charasmatic in interviews and in front of the camera
• Always spoke truthfully and passionatly
• died at 25, yet left an enourmous amount of unreleased material
• had individuality in a genre of music that was filled with similarities
• Had a tremendous work ethic

I think he was one of the most ideal role models of our generation, and for younger generations. Here was a man who at a young age released 5 studio albums, starred in 5 movies, and done a whole lot of music videos, as well as many many features on other artists albums. I'm not a big fan of rap, but I liked how he was so passionate about using his music to deliver a deep message, and how he actually used his craft to help others. He died at 25, but left well over 400 unreleased songs, and in the last year of his life, released 2 albums (1 double album, 1 single album) starred in 2 movies, and done around 8 music videos, while visiting court, other artists to feature on their albums, and while doing 3-5 songs per day all in the last year of his life. He also died with around $90,000 in the bank oddly enough, but used a lot of his money very quietly to fund homes for homeless people, to fund childrens activitys who had parents in prison, and fund restruants and little leauge teams for teenagers who would stay drug free among many more but didn't once brag about it or mention it publicly because he felt he didn't want to make it appear as if he was doing it to sell records. Beyond death however in 1996, there have been annual albums released with new/unheard material never released before (some even double albums) for over 10 years, which showed how much he worked in the studio to create a huge back catalouge of unreleased recordings, and I think that among other things is a great inspirational tool for any young person who may idolise him
I really can't stand all this Hip Hop thing, because of the fronting, and fakeness imagry surrounding it, but Tupac was one guy who was believable, and truly artistic, and as a creative artist, I don't believe he can be touched in terms of clever creativness even though I like others as equally in terms of just music.

Who's yours and why?

 

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I am a big tupac fan but in your post you missed some very important things you say he is one of the most ideal role models of our generation he went to prision for sexual assult!! and has assulted other people before.

He also claimed Westside till I die but was born in New York which is East coast, got to keep it real.

And for black youths in America he had a reasonable child hood and went to several good Art and drama schools, not very gangsta.

Also alot of his "unrealeased" material has been released before but the lyrics have been taken off one track and put on to a new beat.

My favourite artist is R Kelly legend can't say no more than that.

 

Personally, I've been into music for as long as I can remember first record I liked was prince charming by adam and the ants so I must have been 4 or 5 thereabouts. through the 80's i remeber collecting loads of different styles of music by getting the 7" singles (the younger contingent of this forum google 7" singles).

A big turning point was hearing Iron maidens bring your daughter to the slaughter on the chart show on radio 1. I went out and bought the album (one of the first cd's I ever bought) and never looked back. Over the years my tastes in metal have changed a little, I have not listened to iron maiden or GNR for years, My favourite bands at the moment are Clawfinger (reasonably political, but BIG BIG sound) rammstein and joachim witt (the german language fits metal music perfectly)gary numan etc, plus all the other usuals. Personally for me I love metal because of the depth of emotion you can get from it (I think cause mum was always playing stuff like clannad and enya and classical music, I've always thought music should make you feel something good/bad whatever).

Music is really a very personal thing and is different for everyone but has and is a major part of my life.

 

Same can be said about R-Kelly's facination with young girls. Aaliyah, and the sex tape with the young 14 year old girl that caused all the controversy, which was later put to child pornography charges. Although you never know what the press have in their agenda to create interesting captive reading, and I don't always believe press, or alleged incidents that people say, and the reasons. Was he set up? Did the girl lie about her age? Or was it genuine? Who knows

Tupac was sent to prison, but his actual charge was "touching someone in the buttocks", which was classed as sexual assualt, his entourage (which he never really knew) were the responsible people who he left in this young womens company. This women gave oral sex to Tupac the previous night in a crowded dance floor in a nightclub and was a star struck groupie, yet none of the entourage were even looked up. Tupac was the target, and rightfully so, he had sued the police prior to an assualt he received from them, and won. He shot at off-duty police as well for harrasing an innocent by-stander, and his mother was a former Black Panther member, and his music was political. All reasons warrant a set up or hatred from the law, or justice system

To call his childhood reasonable, it wasn't. Constantly moving to different slums, seeing violence on a daily basis, and being homeless once his mother was addicted to crack would have been difficult, he was fortunate to have a short term in one arts school - the Baltimore school of arts, but it was brief as him and his mother had to move again, and it was in California his success and oppertunitys made him a star hench why he would prop 'westside' so to speak, but his help, aid, and support covered not just Californian kids, but New york kids as well, and before his death was half way finished in creating an album "one nation", which was coastal united, containing New York, California, and any other state.

R-Kelly is definitly a legend though. I can remember one track being my favourite of his.. Thank God It's Friday or something like that? Had a great smooth sound to it

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7_KeYqmmlE That is a classic old school tune.

R kelly was cleared of all charges were as Tupac was found guilty but I have to say I think R Kelly does have a thing for young girls Aaliyah for example, but if you have ever seen photos of the girl in the court case or Aaliyah at the time of there marriage they looked more like young women then children.

In rap though Tupac is my favourite what made him so great was that he made many mistakes but had learnt from them and was trying to change when he was murdered.

If he was not murdered at 25, who knows what he would of gone on to? If Malcolm X was lost at 25, the world would have lost a huslter from Detroit but look what he achivced.

 

Yeh that's the one lol. I can remember buying the single to this. It was in a cardboardish paper box if I remember right. You see talk shows with girls at 13 looking like 19 year olds, so you never know.

It's good to see some of the varied opinions here though. Rammstien, I can remember listening to one of their albums while getting one of my tattoo's done, so I always relate to them with tattoo's for some reason lol, but still good, not really listened to many metal beyond them though, but as a varied music listener always good to hear recommendations

 

you might want to check out this old thread, for a related discussion

http://www.certforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=18299