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English 'pull own teeth' as dental service decays

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by tripwire45, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. tripwire45
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    Is this for real?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071015/wl_uk_afp/britainhealthdentists
     
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  2. Fergal1982

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    yeah its for real. been all over the news the past few days.

    *shudder*
     
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  3. greenbrucelee
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    Yep its real

    Ther fact is no one can get an NHS dentist as they are all going private.

    I don't have a dentist as I work night shift I was always missing appointments because I was in bed so I got thrown out of the dental practice.

    I have no hope of getting into an NHS dentist and I cant afford a private one.

    Its a wonder what we pay our taxes for in this country and National insurance we pay on our wages is supposed to cover this sort of thing.

    Me thinks theres too many pen pushers getting paid for nothing out of our own pockets.
     
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    Is it that bad GBL? I must admit, I'm lucky to still be on an NHS dentist so I'm a little bit ignorant as to the situation. Still bloody pricey on the NHS though.

    Jeez, the thought of pulling your own gnashers out though, people have been doing their own fillings with Polyfiller and Superglue too, so I've been reading
     
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  5. tripwire45
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    People critisize the US medical system and it does have it's flaws, but when I do have medical insurance, I don't have issues getting treatment. Of course, we only have a private medical system here rather than public and private. I have a friend in Canada who suffers from multiple chronic medical problems and must rely on the public system there. My friend reports that doctors have often either lost her records or mixed them up with another patient's (she has a rather common name), take a long time to schedule appointments, often don't answer her direct questions, referring her to another one of her specialists (who then doesn't answer her questions and refers her on, etc...). She has had to fight tooth and nail to get a copy of her medical records (which would be her right in the US). She paints a rather grim picture of socialized medicine.
     
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    Private medical or not, the Excess on some of those plans is prohibitive in itself
    you pay masses a month and then have to form up an excess when you actually need treatment!

    My Dentist is NHS/Private and some of my work had to be done privately, It's never cost more than a few hundred to be honest (that was for four surgical extractions and a filling)
    and for most NHS jobs its like <£50
     
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    I think our system should be more like the US one because at least you would get treatment if you needed it, as I said there are too many pen pusher getting paid too much and havent got a clue about what they're actually doing.

    Its like the superbug problem we have in hospitals, they are too dirty because there's not enough money being spent an hygein is all going to some c*** suckers who get paid for doing zip.
     
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    To be fair, the MRSA problem was kind of inevitable really. When you throw antibiotics at bacteria, some of them are inevitably going to survive, and then survive the next batch, and so on.

    How clean the cleaners kept the hospitals wont have helped necessarily, but its not what actually caused the problem. All it will really have done is hindered the isolation of the bug (maybe), formation of the strain is caused by exposure to antibiotics, etc.

    EDIT: More info on MRSA
     
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  9. greenbrucelee
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    yep I know that the bug will become stronger as it gets used to anti biotics, but one thing I am sure of is that if the hospitals were run like they used to with a matron and strict hygein rules and making sure everything was spick and span then we wouldn't be in as much trouble as we are.

    My mum was a nurse in late 50s early 60s and she says she would have been happy back then to go to hospital but not now because in her words "they're to dirty and un hygenic".

    She says the main job of the matron was to make sure the place was as hygenic as possible and to make sure the patients were properly looked after and no over crowding on wards as this ties in to the hygene thing.

    This doesn't happen anymore.
     
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    Not disagreeing with you there. I just hate people thinking the cause of a disease/infection/outbreak is one thing, when its not.

    MRSA is caused by bacterium becoming resistant to multiple antibiotics.
    The hygene conditions do not suitably restrict the spread of said bacterium.

    Even in a perfectly clean environment, it wouldnt stop the outbreaks (since the outbreaks can occur spontaneously - without exposure to existing strains (although less likely)), but it would, as you say, help reduce the severity.
     
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    The US medical system has "superbug" issues as well for the same reasons; overuse of antibiotics over the past several decades have resulted in medication resistant strains of diseases. Pretty soon, we won't be able to kill the bugs without killing the people.
     
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