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Does a HND open any more doors

Discussion in 'Other IT certifications' started by ericrollo, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. ericrollo

    ericrollo Megabyte Poster

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    I already have a BTEC National Diploma at grade DDD would a HND actually help me considering its another two years.

    What would be best Apprenticeship in IT or a HND.
     
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  2. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Hi mate, its a tough one really. I've got two HND's. One in more the technolgy stuff and one in the more development area and neither really count now that I have a degree. It all depends. I think they are a good thing to do as you can earn credits towards a degree.

    I suppose it all depends on what area of IT you want to get into. Support roles I'd say give it a miss, programming I'd say yeah do it.

    Jim
     
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  3. Qs

    Qs Semi-Honorary Member Gold Member

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    There's no best, it depends what potential employers are looking for in the future. Sounds like you got decent grades for the BTEC so I'd recommend the HND as it shows a higher level of commitment.

    The HND is more a-kin to degree level

    The BTEC is only equivalent to one A-Level

    It's your call.

    Qs
     
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  4. Sco0t

    Sco0t Byte Poster

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    My HND I felt open doors for me after I had my degree, after it showed progression. Would you be wanting to get that then apply for jobs? I've seen a few first line support jobs saying, hnd or equivelant.
     
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  5. MLP

    MLP Kilobyte Poster

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    Hi

    Just based on my own experience, an A+ or an MCDST would have allowed me to get a foot in the door, so to speak, much quicker than my HND. However, when I did get given a chance, it seemed that I was able to progress a bit quicker.

    Just remember that an HND is a big step up from BTEC, and you will still have to work your way up after completion.

    If an IT apprenticeship is on offer, I would take it, and look at getting an HND or degree through the Open University or part time, so you can get that all important experience, show a willingness to learn, and maybe even get your employer to sponsor you.

    Best of luck, whichever path you take.

    Maria
     
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  6. Len

    Len Byte Poster

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    BTEC National Award = 1 A-Level

    BTEC National Certificate = 2 A-levels

    BTEC National Diploma = 3 A-levels

    Thats how it is on the NQF.

    He has the equivalent of 3 A's.

    I'd go for the apprenticeship if its available, otherwise a HNC/HND
     
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  7. wagnerk
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    I would say yes in the long term it will help you, even if you didn't do the full HND and did the part-time HNC instead. Added to that, both can be used to top up to a full BSc/BA.

    To be honest, both would be better :)

    The way I see it:

    Are you currently working in IT? If you are then the apprenticeship would be the better choice.

    Not working in IT: Then the HNC/HND/fdSc route would be better (as you actually have to be in the job already for the apprenticeship).

    If you want to gain your degree level (regardless of it being a BSc/BA or NVQ) qualification faster, then I would say go the HNC/HND->BSc route. Most NVQ/Apprenticeships only go up to level 3. Level 4 (this is HNC to BSc/BA level) are very hard to find, plus you will have to be IT operations management. Level 5 (which is MSc/MA) is practically non-existant.

    Anotehr thing to consider, while the NVQ program is accepted europe wide, you may need to get the qualification assessed if you go to a country outside the EU in order for them to accept it.

    -Ken
     
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  8. Qs

    Qs Semi-Honorary Member Gold Member

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    My bad. When i did the hnd i already had the grades to jump straight on to the course.
     
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