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Discussion in 'New Members Introduction' started by sappleton, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. sappleton

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    post a message in here before starting threads in the other forums?
     
  2. wagnerk
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    Well it would be nice to introduce yourself first :D

    -Ken
     
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    Welcome!
     
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  4. sappleton

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    im simon
     
  5. Fergal1982

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    well no, but having posted here already, you've made it a moot point really havent you?

    Welcome to the forums. Although im getting the idea that you aren't going to stick around any longer than it takes to get a solution to your problem.

    If you are looking at getting certifications, then perhaps you should take a bit of time, look around. This really is quite a good community to be a part of. Lots of laughs, plenty of opportunity to help and be helped in your time.
     
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  6. nXPLOSi

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    Welcome Simon, what can we do you for?
     
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  7. sappleton

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    its not that, im just little annoyed that my first post in the training section took me 10 minutes to write and it hasnt even been put up
     
  8. Fergal1982

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    that wouldnt be the cause of it. Provided you had verified your email address to activate your account prior to posting, it would have gone up straight away. Posts here arent verified in that manner, there are plenty of other first posts in sections outside this one.

    If you posted before activating your account, then it likely wouldnt have posted and you will have to rewrite it. infact, in either case you are going to have to rewrite really.
     
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  9. sappleton

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    ok, it was an enquiry about a course in ecommerce with skills train and thinking of doing, which is the best section?
     
  10. BosonMichael
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    One that you don't have to pay a training provider for. 8)
     
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  11. sappleton

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    whats wrong with training providers?

    which is the best out of them anyway?
     
  12. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    Welcome Simon, from Simon! :biggrin

    You will find that I have approved your Post in the Training and Development forum.

    Posts in that forum made by new members have to be approved by a member of staff before they are made public, this is because a number of new members simply signed up to spam the boards.

    8)
     
  13. Fergal1982

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    Ah. oops, I was unaware of that. perhaps because I've been here so long. :biggrin
     
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  14. ManicMonkey

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    Its kinda like someone asking you..

    You mind if i ask you a question - Kinda left me no choice there :)
     
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  15. Fergal1982

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    :biggrin thats true. I always like to act like a computer when people ask me questions. Answer exactly what they ask, not what they meant to ask. annoys some people no end.

    Of course, with this, you should maybe deal with it slightly differently, start answering the second question with "Error: invalid number of arguments"
     
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  16. greenbrucelee
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    Hi welcome

    There nothing wrong with training providers apart from they take as much cash of you as they deem possible (some people pay different amounts for the same course with the same provider)

    Whats wrong with self study?

    nothing its cheaper, you dont have to do a course to do an exam.:D
     
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  17. BosonMichael
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    Nothing *wrong* with training providers... except you don't really *need* to spend that much money to get certified when self-study would do the trick for MUCH less money... and you'd even be able to afford a generous home lab if you wanted one. I have yet to take a training course for any of my certifications.

    Not sure about training schools in the UK... but here in the US, training schools don't pay instructors well... so they end up hiring instructors who are often not very experienced in the courses they teach. As a result, when the instructors go to teach some courses, their supervisors tell them to just "stay a chapter ahead in the material"... they're learning it as you're learning it. So... do you want to pay thousands of pounds on the possibility that you might end up with an instructor who simply regurgitates to you what they learned in a book the week (or night) before?
     
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  18. sappleton

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    id rather have training providers as they will teach me what i need to know

    im bad at reading books, ill lose interest
     
  19. Fergal1982

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    Have you considered having a look at your local college to see if they do any of the courses that you are looking at? Even if they have courses along the same lines you could do them and supplement it with a bit of side reading from the course material for the cert in question.

    That way, if you were to sit several courses with the college, you often end up with a cert/hnc/etc from them too. cant hurt, its a classroom environment so may be better for you to learn through, and its highly likely to be a hell of a lot cheaper than a lot of providers.
     
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  20. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    I don't want to sound offensive, but what do you think a training provider will do, that is any different?

    They will give you folders of their material to read. You still have to learn and digest things - they don't wave a magic wand to circumvent the learning system, I'm afraid.

    If you want to certify and can't take things in by reading, may I suggest the Cramsession line of audio learning products?
     
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