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Certs or Degree?

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by jaycee0408, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. jaycee0408

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    I am studying A+ cert at the moment. But I saw some uni are offering part time degree.
    Just wondering which would be the best to go for. I would like to be an IT technician.

    Thanks.

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  2. Qs

    Qs Semi-Honorary Member Gold Member

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    I hate to say it but... both? (Plus real-world experience)

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  3. BosonMichael
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    Companies hiring entry-level techs don't need people with college degrees... they need warm bodies to handle entry-level tasks. Thus, early in an IT career, certifications are going to be far more useful than degrees.

    Do I think degrees are worthwhile? Absolutely! But they are more valuable later in an IT career to help set yourself ahead of your competition. And they're certainly not worth doing as a substitute for working - someone with four years of experience will almost always be hired over someone with a four-year degree.

    Personally, I'd recommend that you get both certs AND a degree... but again, not at the expense of getting your first IT job and actually working in IT.
     
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  4. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    This was covered quite comprehensively in this lively thread :)
     
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  5. Jiser

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    I would go for a degree with the option for a year out in industry. Best of both worlds. In all honesty you can quite easily have a part time job, study for a degree and get your MCSA with A+ / N+ electives in a four year degree with a year out in industry and have a social life.

    Sounds like alot I know but IMO it can be done quite easily.
     
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  6. jaycee0408

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    I wish I can do both now but i'm in a full time job at the moment, so really i only could go for one path at the moment :(

    JC
     
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  7. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

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    Then I would recommend to do what I, and alot of people have done. Work full time, do your degree part-time in the evenings & weekend, then do entry level certs like the A+, Network+ & the MCDST (not all 3 at the same time) during breaks (Summer & Winter).

    I'm not saying that it'll be easy, however it can be done.

    -Ken
     
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  8. jaycee0408

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    Which university did u study part time and which degree did u take?

    Thanks :)
     
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  9. wagnerk
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    I studied at the University of Northampton (back then in 2003 it was called University College Northampton), the program I was in was the BSc in Computing specialising in Software Engineering. However when I graduated it was just a BSc in Computing (no specialisation), this may have been due to amount of student drop outs. There was 2 part-time degree courses running the the evenings the BSc in Computing and a BA in Computer <something else?>. And in order for the rest of us to continue we all merged into one course :)

    -Ken
     
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  10. jaycee0408

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    I see, I will be looking for one similar course in university in london.
    Thanks Ken.
     
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  11. wagnerk
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    A quick search, the top two, brought up Goldsmiths (UoL) and London Met Uni, both do part-time degrees in Computing/Computer/Computer related subjects.

    Hope this helps :)

    -Ken
     
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  12. jaycee0408

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    The course in London Met Uni seems pretty good, now I just need to prepare to write my personal statement. :)

    Ta again Ken
     
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  13. wagnerk
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    No worries :)

    -Ken
     
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  14. jaycee0408

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    Sorry one more question, how old were you when you started the course?

    Ta
     
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  15. wagnerk
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    I started my HNC when I was 20, transfered over to the degree program once I completed that (I was 22) and then graduated when I was 25. Both HNC & BSc was part-time and I was the youngest person on both courses.

    -Ken
     
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  16. jaycee0408

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    I see, I'm 19 now but I am a temp in the public sector office. I am waiting to become permanent staff and then I will be able to afford to study part time degree. For now I'll study A+,N+ and MCDST.
     
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  17. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

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    Good plan, imo :)

    -ken
     
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