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CEH Self-Study

Discussion in 'Other IT certifications' started by Invictus13, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. Invictus13

    Invictus13 New Member

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    Hello all,

    I just wanted your view in me undertaking the CEH via self-study rather than via classes.

    From my perspective the classes seem to be firstly, overpriced, and secondly, I believe that part of the learning process should be personal trial and error as well as trying to problem solve problematics rather than them being spoonfed.

    What is your point of view?
     
  2. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

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    Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but in order to take the CEH exam, you need not only to have worked in an IT Security role for two years, but also to have taken the accredited course. This is one of the reasons the course is so expensive - they know you're a captive audience.

    What's your IT Security background?
     
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  3. Invictus13

    Invictus13 New Member

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    Well actually that is not always the case.

    You can be granted exemption from undertaking the course if you have enough experience.

    I have 5 years experience in IT security working as a law enforcement officer in high-tech crime unit.

    I have been granted the exemption already etc...

    My question was another.

    Thx
     
  4. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    There are books and CBT's on the CEH available, if you have 2 years experience and an employer reference you do not need to take a course.

    Ask JK about it I think he did it self study.

    There are also courses in Cyprus that are reasonably priced if you like a bit of sun !
     
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  5. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Hi Invictus, have you sent your details to the EC-Council and got your code? You can't sit the exam without entering their code when you pay for the exam if its self study.

    I have my exam booked for a week Saturday and have self studied but did sit a Mile2 course earlier this year which is supposed to be similar (CPTS).

    A friend on here, Pete Grant, recommended these, he's got his CEH and they are very good IMO. I suppose proof will be in the pudding if I pass on the 19th.

    Best of luck

    Jim

    PS I might PM you shortly to ask more about your job if thats OK?
     
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  6. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

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    Damn - I didn't know that when I took the bloody course! If I had done I wouldn't have wasted my time with it - the course itself was pretty useless - most of the stuff they spent interminable hours poring over wasn't in the exam, and the techniques used to 'attack' networks were laughably out of date.

    With 5 years' experience you certainly don't need to take the course to be able to pass the exam - I just thoguht that it was a requirement to do so.

    Sucks to be me - though at least I didn't waste any of my own money!
     
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  7. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Ah no mate you can be forgiven because its only fairly new that you can self study for it and so many people don't know. You still have to jump through a lot of hoops tho, signed statement from someone high up in your company with a letter head, photocopy of your passport, 2+ years Security experience etc :eek:
     
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    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

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    Oh - that explains it - it was over two years ago that I sat it!

    If anyone's interested, other than for career progression, the cert itself is next to useless - I learned nothing from it.
     
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  9. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Ditto that for Mile2's Certified Penetration Testing Specialist (CPTS) cert
     
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  10. Invictus13

    Invictus13 New Member

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    The Mile2 was going to be my next course after the CEH.

    In answer to your questions, yes I already have the code etc...

    So are they both not woth undertaking then? I thought they would add some academic depth to a CV.

    Thx
     
  11. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    No don't get me wrong, I DO think they are worth taking for someone in your shoes i.e. a Security Professional. I myself am still going ahead to get the CEH and have the CPTS. They are useful to a person with Security experience who wants some well known certs to add to their CV. They are not useful to people without Security experience or those who want to "become hackers". Hope that makes sense . . . and if anything they are really interesting to learn, but no cert like this is ever going to be as up-to-date as whats out there.

    **Edit for what its worth, my Mile2 instructor really knew his stuff
     
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    I bet he did, he is probably rifling through your bank details now :twisted:
     
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    I wondered why I was down to 30k in my current account . . . :biggrin
     
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