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All this talk on 70-291

Discussion in 'Network Infrastructure' started by daft_togger, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. daft_togger

    daft_togger Nibble Poster

    I've only just began my certifcation path and I've heard so much about how hard 291 is.

    I've just sat and passed 290, which I did not find that difficult, that if you studied and understood the entire MS press book and done some practice questions you'd pass.

    If 291 really that much of a leap?

    What makes it so hard?

    I want to do this one after 70-620 (which I'm only doing now, so I can knock another one off the list before end of year). I want to give myself time to prepare for 291 after xmas.
    Certifications: 70-290, 70-620
    WIP: 70-291
  2. Sparky
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    Sparky Zettabyte Poster Moderator

    Yup, its a big leap. I found the exams from 70-291 onwards much harder than the 70-270 and 70-290.

    If you put the work in like you did before there is no reason why you cant pass first time.
    Certifications: MSc MCSE MCSA:M MCSA:S MCITP:EA MCTS(x5) Security+ Network+ A+
    WIP: Exchange 2007\2010
  3. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

    The 70-291 is a big leap from the 70-290 & 70-270. In the 70-291 you have to learn:

    1. DNS: Zones, Forwarding, etc
    2. DHCP:Relay Agents, Scopes, etc
    3. Routing between subnets, sites, etc
    4. Subnetting
    5. Network Security, not as indepth as the ISA exams or the 70-298/70-299, but you still have to have knowledge of it
    6. RRAS/IAS/VPN, etc
    7. Maintaining a Network infrastructure
    8. etc...

    See here.

    One of the reasons why I recommend doing the Network+ (and maybe the security+) first of all...

    Certifications: CITP, PGCert, BSc, HNC, LCGI, PTLLS, MCT, MCITP, MCTS, MCSE, MCSA:M, MCSA, MCDST, MCP, MTA, MCAS, MOS (Master), A+, N+, S+, ACA, VCA, etc... & 2nd Degree Black Belt
    WIP: PGDip
  4. Nickalicious

    Nickalicious Bit Poster

    I'm getting slapped in the face by trying to get my head around all the different encryption and authentication methods in the RRAS chapter (Sybex book), just my experience though. :) I find that there is definitely less overlap in this one as with the 270 and 290.
    Certifications: 70-270, 70-290
    WIP: 70-291
  5. dales

    dales Gigabyte Poster

    The 291 is called the beast for a reason. Studying for it myself at the moment and there is a hell of alot to take in, its certainly nothing like the client exams where you only really need to learn about the hardware specs, installation, a few features and a bit of networking on the side!
    Certifications: vExpert 2014+2015+2016,VCP-DT,CCE-V, CCE-AD, CCP-AD, CCEE, CCAA XenApp, CCA Netscaler, XenApp 6.5, XenDesktop 5 & Xenserver 6,VCP3+5,VTSP,MCSA MCDST MCP A+ ITIL F
    WIP: Nothing
  6. craigie

    craigie Terabyte Poster

    I'm currently studying for the 70-291, here is how I compare the exams that I have taken so far:

    70-271, 20-272 (MCDST) & 70-620 (Vista) Sunday League Football
    70-290 Second Division Football
    70-291 UEFA Champions League Winners

    I do feel that the 70-291 should be broken down into two books as there is SO much to learn!
    Certifications: CCA | CCENT | CCNA | CCNA:S | HP APC | HP ASE | ITILv3 | MCP | MCDST | MCITP: EA | MCTS:Vista | MCTS:Exch '07 | MCSA 2003 | MCSA:M 2003 | MCSA 2008 | MCSE | VCP5-DT | VCP4-DCV | VCP5-DCV | VCAP5-DCA | VCAP5-DCD | VMTSP | VTSP 4 | VTSP 5
  7. daft_togger

    daft_togger Nibble Poster

    Thanks for the posts guys. I've booked my 70-620 exam for 19th December. On passing 620, plan to read as much as I can over xmas with the Network + book I bought recently and start proper study for 291 Mid January.

    Graduate in my team has just completed his MCSE (got 1000/1000 for 2 exams, Vista and one of the design exams......darn good going) Think he got 760 for the 291 exam.
    Certifications: 70-290, 70-620
    WIP: 70-291
  8. steve_f

    steve_f Byte Poster

    RRAS is really annoying me. The concepts are not hard. There are just so many different options.

    The main thing annoying me is that my neither my employer, or the 12 external companies that we support, use RRAS at all. They all have proper routers and firewalls.

    The CBT nuggets guy pretty much mocks the MS implementation of NAT, and says something like "if you are on a large network, you won't be using Microsoft products for routing, you will be using proper routers like Cisco"

    It's the first time I have studied MS stuff and thought "I hope I never have to use this" if I have to use RRAS it will mean I am working for a place with a tiny network and no budget for routers.

    End of my rant sorrry!!!
    Certifications: MCDST, MCSA 2003+Messaging, MCITP:SA, MCSA 2008, ITIL v3 Foundation, Comptia Server+ 2009, CCA Xenapp 6.5, VCP5-DV

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