360 Elite

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Its a no brainer consoles with their own unique hardware are always gonna take longer for game development to kick in. Its not just about the hardware, you need decent libraries ontop of the hardware and someone has to write these and it generally takes a couple years. Anything with a PC based design isn't going to suffer from the same difficulties.

Games take a long time to write on their own, theres simply not enough time for the game dev team to write all the libraires as well, if they are supporting multiple platforms they will just do the best they can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RenderWare

It takes time for these libraries to get optimised for the hardware, the initial port often isn't that good.

In a way the PC is no different, how many apps support dual or quad core ? How many 64 bit processors ? How long does it take the OS, VM and compiler makers to add new processor instructions to their products ?

 

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If you buy John Madden for the ps3 certainley in the US (not sure about uk) if you dont update the firmware then it wont run, and there is no warning in the game box or manual to tell you this.

You shouldnt have to update the firmware on a console

 

Thats because its in the ps3 manual not on the front of the game boxes, ps wont load any games if theres a firmware update, there are also game updates that should be stated on the game box.

I remeber when GRAW came on the xbox i was one of the first to get a copy in the uk (Pre-order) and low and behold there was a game update availible(That i had to download or the game wouldn't start)

xbox live update correct me if am rong but you need then as soon as the come out or your gettin no online gaming

as for the pc i play BF2 and BF 2142 i had to patch both games before it would show me all the online servers

Nothing new about having to update something in order to get something else to work tis the way of life

 

here a link to the ps3 update page where you can see the change log and what not (UK got released at version 1.8 the madden thing is a bit dated 1.02)

you will notice that its more feature adding with a little bug fixing there a blog where you can post your request and they will try add within limits of course

 

consoles aren't really consoles anymore are they, they're more of media centers. however the wii is a console is concerntrates purely on gaming and nothing else.

grim

 

yip just like my mobile phone doesn't only take/make calls, ppl want more but with less kit (or i know i do)

 

Errr....speak for yourself I wish I could just use my phone...instead I have to wait 5 minutes for it to boot, and then it crashes...

 

on a last note i still feel this will be the turning point for ps3 followed by MGS4 and sales seem to be on the up.

 

I dont think it will, the PS3 may start to do well in 2 years time once the developers have got properly in-tune with all the tools etc.

Industry analysts said before the PS3 was out that the Xbox 360 will be ahead of PS3 for the next 5 years and I agree with them.

The xbox 360 has been around a while and the developers have got to grips with it now and the games are looking and playing really well.

Its always the same with consoles 2 years after launch and they are hitting their stride so to speak.

 

I think it really goes down to what types of games you play. I think that for sports games a PS3 is better, for other games like adventure and maybe FPS the 360 is better. The consoles are different both are good, its a matter of preference.

I had a 360 elite before and the its a perfectly good entertainment system, but for me its was ok not too great. I ended up returning it. As for PS3 I dont own it and for the games that it has out right now it suits me fine. I am not a big fan of halo for example and its something that many xbox enthusiasts love so much.

 

Bloody gamers. :P

 

seems like the 360 is gonna need a hard drive to play games in the future, although this wont be a prolem if you have an elite

more here

grim

 

I think it would always be a case these days that you would need a hard driver or at least a large memory stick for game saves

 

no it'll use the hard disk as virtual memory, so people who don't have a hard disk will have restricted memory resources for the games that require the extra memory.

grim

 

I think Game have a deal whereby if you trade in your Premium they give you £150 off the Elite.

 

prices are coming down....

core £179.99
premium £229.99
elite £299.99

grim

 

i bet you couldn't do this with the elite's lol

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/08/08/behind-the-curtain-the-warhawk-servers/

 

mutter. The week after I took the plunge. Gits!

 

I can't help but wonder what is the cheapest way to build a decent cluster these days ?

Micro ATX ?

Old sun server and a copy of slowlaris ?

 

yeah but the Cell BE(ppc) kicks a$$ sure they could have just got a bunch of blades with the Cell BE but i think that would have cost much more than ps3's, also i was having a little dig at xbox and there red hot chips