Uk government looking to ways to get ISPs to block Adult SItes

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Colloghi, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. Colloghi

    Colloghi Kilobyte Poster

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    The main story is linking to Internet Adult Material, but I guess if they deemed that is unsafe for children and needs blocking, so will everything else deemed unsafe, maybe sites like youtube, facebook, etc etc..

    The plan would be that ISP's would block all naughty sites and you would have to "opt in" to see the content


    from BBC website:

    Government plans to block pornography "at source" are unlikely to prove effective, say ISPs.

    The proposal to cut off access to pornographic material was floated by Culture Minister Ed Vaizey in an interview with the Sunday Times.

    The government is talking to ISPs to set up a meeting at which the proposal will be discussed.

    and rest of story below at the link

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12041063






    Obviously the coalition government here havnt upset enough people with cuts, fee risings, Vat increase and everything else..............so i guess that makes sense. I wonder what all the would be students, who end up staying at home will do, when bored and no nudey sites. Maybe thats the idea to drive people to look at stuff that will be helpful online:)

    Although I dont really deal with the Internet filter here at work, I do see quite a lot the problems faced by people accessing sites that are deemed unsafe............Especially as we are a hospital that deals with cosmetic surgery......The fear of typing in Breast Reduction on a work network:P

    So what are peoples opinions on this? Good idea in Theory, but in practice......meeeeeeeeeeeh? Would it work technically? could it work technically?
     
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  2. soundian

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    I don't think it's a good idea.
    It's the first step on the road to more censorship. Any politician knows it's a lot easier to move a line in the sand than it is to put one down. I would oppose this just because it is the first line in the sand.
     
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  3. JonnyMX

    JonnyMX Petabyte Poster

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    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

    Want Porn...

    :mad
     
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  4. Colloghi

    Colloghi Kilobyte Poster

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    Youd have to give up Little Big Planet then......................your always on that game as much as myself on Black Ops:P
     
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  5. zebulebu

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    It is? How about this lot?
     
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  6. L1ONE

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    Whatever they manage to "Accomplish", there will be ways around it, and it won't be as bad as Venezuela.
     
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  7. soundian

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    Thanks Zeb, I wasn't aware of that. While I have no problem with blocking illegal sites (since most of the laws in this country aren't completely loony. Some of the interpretations though....) I do have a problem with perfectly legal sites being considered acceptable collateral damage.
    Even more reason to stand against this, the line in the sand is already there!

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
    Some people might argue that all porn is evil. I don't see any problem with two consenting adults giving permission for pictures of themselves being posted on the internet. I do see a problem with a government trying to restrict access to sites. China, anyone?

    Personally I think it should be up to the choice of the adult who has the contract with the ISP what sites they block or don't block. I'd be quite happy with an opt-out on full content because then the user has choices: manage it themselves or accept the collateral damage for the protection of their children (or employees work ethic). I say opting out because, before you know it, some government employee will lose a laptop with a huge list of people who have opted in if we do it the other way.

    @JohnnyMX: I knew there was another reason :biggrin
     
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  8. JonnyMX

    JonnyMX Petabyte Poster

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    Aha!
    I have to confess that's JonnyMX Junior.
    He's absolutely addicted to the flipping thing, to the extent that I'm not getting my Black Ops fix.

    So don't wonder what's going on if it looks as if I've lost my marbles. He hasn't got any yet.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  9. cosway

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    Right the snow is getting on my nerves and I'm ready for a rant...:twisted:

    <conspiracy theory>

    The government desperately want to own, monitor and monetise the web, I wonder how long it will take them to add whistle blowing sites such as wiki leaks to the unsafe list...
    ...and as scary, sexist, raciest, homophobic and barking mad looney as certian political parties views may be, I guess all those National Parties websites could also be banned, then we can start on anyone who opposes the current government...
    I’m sure that someone (probably a chin-less in-bred upper-crust school friend of Nick or Dave) will have to maintain the list of "allowed" sites, and I’m sure an annual fee will be demanded from each site owner for the privilege of being on the nice list.

    If the registration fee is high enough they could even stop all us working class oiks from starting our own internet businesses - win-win for the old school boy network. Imagine a council tax/poll tax imposed on your websites.

    Why not stop there I'm sure if enough pressure (money) is thrown at the government by all those cert training providers, they could get sites such as this one put on the naughty list (think about it how dare certforums educate people for free, some rich investment group could be making a fortune (well adding to their current fortune) if we all had to pay government approved safe website for this information and pay all course providers the equivalent price of a small family car to be sold the information)...

    </conspiracy theory>

    On the other hand if the pron is taken out of the internet all those home broadband providers would be in serious trouble, as from what I've seen on customers computers, that’s what the internet is used for. But I wouldn't know anything about that, actually what is this porn?, I've never seen it (honest):oops:, Is it some sort of cash converters online shop or chess game appreciation forum?
     
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