Skills Train / Scheidegger / Skills4more.co.uk

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Skillstrain bad TK good

Everyone knows my opinion on TPs so there's no need to go there but TK, will never every be good for mock exams or anything else.

Being good for mock exams doesn't make any sense because you would be practicing the real thing and from what I understand on their so-called test engine you can select it to tell you the answers and why that is the correct answers.

So in other words its cheating no matter how you put it.

 

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The Microsoft approved supplier of exam preparation simulators is MeasureUp as mentioned all over their site.

 

Oh no everyone who went to school/college etc are cheats, I'm sure that you get mock tests and mock test questions and answers prior to GCSE/A Levels etc...You should expose this scam to the government!

 

yep I did but those mock exams weren't carbon copies of the real exam and they also didn't tell me what the answers were either.

 

As far as I remember, we were given the mock test answers after we got our mock test results. Our teachers then review the papers and told us where we went wrong. We all had copies of last years mock tests to review (with answers) prior to going for the finals.
Are you absolutly certain that these companies do not just use the same systems, are you certain that TK etc.. is offering exactly the same Q&A as the Microsoft /Cisco etc..tests?

If they are then that is not right and you will correct that is cheating in a way that will certainly damage the value of IT Certifications.

 

Fair point.
Just being lazy.

 

My company will have to pay
Cheers, I will have a good look!

 

yep but they were mock questions TK and other BD sites are the real questions and answers that's the difference.

 

Time for you to go fella, I think. If you truly are/were working for a training provider for several years you would know full well that t***king are braindumps. Not only that, but they are by far the most well known provider of braindumps. Not knowing that would be like saying you were a driving instructor without knowing what the steering wheel does.

Your other arguments are, frankly, pants - especially the laughable one of comparing mock exams from school/college exams to 'study guides' (ahem) that provide the ACTUAL questions from exams people are going to sit. Now I know that school exams have become easier to pass in the past few years, but they're not THAT easy yet!

 

I started this thread Doogle, if you don't like it go to another.
Yes I was a trainer, quite awhile ago now did not know about TK because I never used them, we used only in house trainers and material. I have, in the past overheard students ranting about various brain dump materials and they all rated TK. If anyone asks about TK, I will know that it is to be condemmed. I accepted this point awhile ago so going around in circles is a waste of time.
You should read carefully what I have said before commenting. I said LAST YEARS mock papers not current tests!

 

You're not a disgruntled ex-skills train trainer by any chance?

And, forgive me if I'm wrong, there is no such thing as 'last year's certs'.
Although they may be updated or revised from time to time, not in the same way that uni exams are.

Again, as a trainer you would know this.

And just because you started this thread doesn't mean that people can't disagree with you.

 

No, my title would be spawn of Satin if I did.

X-trainer, I have moved on to greener pastures long since.

They should revise the exams a little more don't you think? I mean, Microsoft etc...make a killing on software/licenses/upgrades/training and exams.

I always am open to information/other opinions.

 

Yeah, you'd think so.

However, as the exams are (in theory) protected by the NDA, there is no need to update them for security reasons.
And unless the core subject changes, there is no real reaon to update the curriculum.

But I guess the main thing is that studying for a cert can take years, and it's hard enough without them changing the goalposts every five minutes.

The other thing to bear in mind is that training and certification is not really what people like Microsoft are into. It's not a major money spinner and I suspect that they only do it bacause it is expected of them, and it stops anyone else cornering the market.


I didn't see the piece on Skills Train, but I was the last one and I've heard of them. That being said, there is at least one ex-student here who has had no issues with them.

I've found that those with negative views are always more vocal than those with positive ones, and I tend to take this into account. I'd rather believe one person with a hands-on report than a dozen people moaning and mooing like cattle.

The arguments are all so depressing too - 'I didn't realize I was taking out a loan', 'I thought it would get me into IT without doing any work', 'The salesman was only interested in selling me something.' Duh!

 

I know what you are saying,
just informing people that with all the choice out there they should be careful.
Especially with a company that have changed brand name for the third time now due to a lot of moaning cattle. I have never heared so much about one training company before.
Alot of people could be fooled by the name change and I think that's unfair, even if they are dumb!

 

You are right!
MS etc.. Could greatly change & rotate tests etc without changing curriculum/structure at all.
It wouldn't cost them much to do so and yes they would stabalise the value of a certification and not to mention, make more money!

 

This better than watching a movie, would someone like some

Brain Dumps are bad end of debate there is no defending them and those that do need to be strung up by their googlies.

 

why you people get almost heart attacks when you read the word "braindump"??

my opinion is who wants to use them should use them and if you want not than do it not..