Linux - employed for UK Goverment

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Miro, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. mattstevenson

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    I'm afraid it didn't read like that for me, and probably for many others. It just looks like a continued attack on bosonmichael. I must say, I've never seen bosonmichael offer anything other than sound advice, I can't imagine that he's ever 'ribbed' ffreeloader for his point of view.
     
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  2. BosonMichael
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    To be fair, I have ribbed him in the past, and despite the fact that I was joking, I got unfairly reprimanded by the forum admins for it.

    In any case, I think he does the Linux community a tremendous disservice with his rants, and in particular, with his personal attacks. I like Linux... but there's a right way and a wrong way to promote it (just like there's a right way and a wrong way to promote Christianity).
     
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  3. AJ

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    Can we get this back to topic please. It is started to go beyond a reasonable diversion from the main subject of the thread.
     
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  4. mattstevenson

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    Well I was having thoughts about getting a Linux+, but I so rarely see Linux on machines that it'd be fairly pointless to do so. Personally, I can't see that Linux will ever become a big player in the OS world, although it's used where it's needed, and will probably continue to do so. Similar to Macs, you only really see them when they're specifically needed.
     
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  5. zebulebu

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    On the Desktop, yes. If you're planning on doing any serious Sys Admin work though you'll need to know some Linux. It might be worth you looking at again at the Linux+ - having some Linux experience and knowledge will often put you ahead of similar candidates when applying for roles.
     
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  6. mattstevenson

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    Yeah, but I'm basically at the level of supporting home users and small business. So it'd be similar to me getting an MCSE - irrelevant to the job I do. I'd have no experience, and as such it'd probably be worth squat - right?
     
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  7. loneferret

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    Nah I don't think getting a linux cert would not be useless. Knowledge is never lost I say. If you have the time I say get one.
     
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  8. mattstevenson

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    Double negative? :P

    Hm, for me though I think it'd be more relevant to get my MCDST. What's really good about that idea is that it'd be a walk in the park compared to a Linux cert, as I work with MS machines every single day, and have seen all sorts of errors, given all kinds of support.

    There is also the issue of money, how much would the Linux+ or RHCE cost?
     
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  9. zebulebu

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    Amen. Linux+ is an entry-level cert - much like the A+ or Network+. It shows to a prospective employer that you are comfortable working in a Linux environment, know how to 'get around' and can perform basic administrative tasks. I'd say its worth looking at if working in Linux interests you.
     
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    Just to throw my 2 cents in the hat, so to speak, the "Linux world" is less certification oriented than the "Windows world". I've worked at companies (and work for one now) that employ a number of software developers who work extensively with open source. The developers at my current company all develop on a Linux platform and even little ol' me works on Ubuntu on a day-to-day basis.

    That said, I don't think anyone has Linux certifications, even the IT guys. This doesn't mean they don't know their stuff but it does mean that knowing one's stuff doesn't mean you have to possess a certification. You can learn all the information and practices necessary to support Linux without taking a cert test.

    Not to say that Linux certification is without worth, but like Windows (and other) certifications, these days people seem to study for a certification as a means to learn the material, not to establish that they already know it.

    Soapbox done. :wink:
     
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  11. loneferret

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    Gimme a break, it wasn't even 7am when I wrote that... LOL

    Linux+ is not expensive, well it wasn't when I got it. Of course RHCE is pricier, but it's not
    entry level either... then again I could be wrong.


    That's basically what I had in mind.
     
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  12. Miro

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    I can see that my tiny question brought a lot of discussion. I would like to say that there are good point in Linux and Windows too. Depends what you you need at a time. And I am against total war of "Linux people" against "Windows people".
    Nowadays those two operating systems are getting mixed. People are using Windows XP with Mozilla Firefox as a browser for example. Both systems has something in offer. There are more issue between MS and Linux but I will leave it for now.
     
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    I prefer Mandriva as it doesn't include NSA spyware like Red Hat does.

    But anyways, there's no way an OS created by self-proclaimed hackers would be allowed to succeed here in the USA. The propaganda machine would have to admit it's been lying to the American people first.
     
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