Junos - Fast track 100% free

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just had a computer weekly delivered, and it contains this advert

100% free tests

(thou on the web site it still states 50%)

 

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Doesn't say what the testing or certification is though.
You'll probably end up with a Juniper certificate in basic computing hot from a photocopier.

 

then find out that your not really certified but a certified junos pro instead a microsoft or compTIA certified pro, or that if you dont complete the course inside a certain timescale that you have to pay thousands of pounds.

 

Incase you didn't read this is from Juniper themselves GBL

 

It's brilliant.
If you want market share, just do what the other big boys have done.
Create your own certification, chuck it about a bit, then try and boost membership by discounting heavily.

 

I thought everyone had learnt that doesn't actually work though....

After every vendor going shoved out certification programs on anything and everything with requirements which amounted to 'fill in this form and pay the fee and its yours' resulting in a deluge of complete muppets with xeroxed certifications which had no relation to their actual level of technical knowledge....

 

yes this is from juniper, and the link is to a juniper website


they have offered this before, i think sometime last year

what they offer:
1) free training videos (i think it say if your ccna, you can do the test in about 15 hours)
2) free online pre assement test (if you pass this you get a 50% off voucher for a test - thou according to this it should be 100%)

3) test at a prometric centre (i think, maybe vue) using free voucher

there is nothing to pay, its not a scam

qualifications only last for 24 months thou!

i think they offer this, to try to gain marketshare in hardware, and maybe develop there testing range to compete with cisco

 

if the certification only lasts 24 months then to me it aint a real certification then and just a money making scam.

 

how can it money making when its free?

 

because they will get you to pay to extend your certification.

Nothing is free, don't believe the BS. We have seen all this before on here example. Do your training with us its free, you even get 50% of the exams after passing the course. Student does the couse witch includes multiple assesments not mentioned in the adverts. The assesments keep coming and coming and the scores get lower and lower. Eventually the student fails right near the end of the course, student says to company "What do I do now?" company says "pays us ****load of cash and we will extend your course". Students says "WTF".

Company says "ca ching"

 

They are not a 'training provider' - they are a product vendor who provide certification in their own products in much the same way that Microsoft and Cisco do.

As such, it's unlikely that certification is a significant income stream for them. Instead, it's about spreading adoption of their technology and trying to gain a foothold in the market.

So it's not a scam or a rip-off that I can see. The only real question you have to ask yourself is 'is it any use to me or my career?'

 

I know they are not a TP, but what I read in the article looks like any TP bs. As you say they are trying to promote their stuff and make money from people who sign up with them. Thats how it looks to me anyway.

 

I like how decent network equipment manufacturer just became a scamming TP just by offering free certification on their product.

No offense GBL but I think you're wrong here mate. On the same basis you could say that Cisco certs are a scam because they're money making scheme and expire in 3 years. If I was working with Juniper gear I would definately take them on their offer.

 

As opposed to 36 months, you mean?

 

I don't think this is a money grab by Juniper. That said, how useful is the certification if the exams are free? There's no risk of failure; I can just keep taking the exam over and over until I pass, right?

 

finally someone who can see the deal this is and not a scam

i think the offer entitles you to one free test per year

 

Maybe I see it wrong, just looks a bit dodgy to me.

 

Looks like it's one free test per exam... either 4 or 5 possible exams - the FAQ has conflicting info.

They'll end up making their money on recertification and hourly lab access and, most importantly, hardware sales. Again, I don't any of this is a money grab... all that is required to recertify is to pass a higher level exam (just like you can with Cisco). Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

I don't have any real-world Juniper experience, but their IOS looks very similar to Cisco's... maybe I ought to give it a try. :hhhmmm

 

How different? What I saw looked much the same... much like I saw with Foundry, which was also amazingly similar to Cisco.

EDIT: Looks like it's not much different: link