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Discussion in 'General Cisco Certifications' started by Mizz_London, Jun 8, 2006.

  1. Mizz_London

    Mizz_London New Member

    I am thinking of doing MCSA, MCSE or CCNA at Joskos.

    They are inviting applications for fully paid scholorships leading to a guaranteed job in the IT sector.

    And as part of the Joskos Scholarship programme i will receive:
    - 100% fully instructor led course
    - All Microsoft and Cisco exams paid for
    - All training manuals, materials and text books
    - A free dell laptop (with latsedt software)
    - Work experience in a leadin UK company

    Have any of you guys heard of them, if so are they a reputable company or are they out to con me?

    I am supposed to go and see them tomorrow..
  2. nugget
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    nugget Junior toady

    I don't know the company but they have been mentioned on here before. I suggest you do a search in the training and development forum for more info.

    If you have some time later you might like to indroduce yourself a little in the new members forum too. The others are always happy to see new faces.:D
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    UCHEEKYMONKEY R.I.P - gone but never forgotten. Gold Member

    The big Con of course.

    I'm not sure on the ruleling on CF site regards to posting other forums websites. However, check this link out before applying:-

    I think it will answer you question.

    Monkey :biggrin
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  4. foo

    foo New Member

    I am sure that a lot of good things can be said about some IT training providers but not so many about joskos.

    After my initial 5 months of training and my payment to them of a substantial amount of money things started to go downhill. The waiting period between lectures would most of the time exceed a month by which time I would have studied enough at home for me to be ready for my next MCSE exams. When confronting them with their riducoulisly long waiting periods they would reply by saying that they couldn’t run lectures unless they had enough student to fill their classroom. I guess it wouldn’t be that cost effective otherwise, right?
    It seemed almost impossible to reach any of them and ask for help, they where all either off sick or on vacation and sometimes even just too busy to take your call; and you better forget about them calling you back , no chance of that either. The only way for you to get anywhere would be for you to go down there and spend about half an hour trying to explain to their Japanese speaking receptionist what you wanted.
    In a lot of cases I would be given the wrong information. In one instance I was given the wrong expiry date of my training and then had to try and convince their other staff about what I was told and by who.
    Joskos where so defiant toward my problems that at some point I even started to question my own rationality but was put at ease when meeting up with some of their other student that had the same issues.
  5. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster


    This thread iswell over a year old - why have you felt the need to resurrect it? Could it just be that you are dissatisfied with the service you have received from the TP in question and are looking for a place to vent your spleen?. This forum isn't designed as a one-stop shop for people to moan about their experiences with Training Providers - it's meant to assist people in gaining their certifications. For the record, all training companies are alike - they are set up to part you from your money and couldn't give a monkey's toss about whether you pass. None of them is worse than the other, can we not just agree on that and move on from what is rapidly becoming a tiresome subject?
    Certifications: A few
    WIP: None - f*** 'em
  6. popeye67

    popeye67 Bit Poster

    Hmm, well helping people to pass their certs ... Well big part of it is choosing the learning method, and subsequently training provider. I'd disagree that they are all the same. All of them are in the business of making money. But there similarity ends. Like in any other business, good and bad. And if someone can get advice of good bad training facilities I'd be all for it
    my 2p
  7. greenbrucelee
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    greenbrucelee Zettabyte Poster

    The fact is though you do not need a training provider.

    You cab google info, you can ask on forums like this, there are free laerning materials on youtube, you can get books.

    Why do you need to spend ££££££££s to learn?

    I am self studying the A+ it cost 80 quid for 2 books and an old comp.

    When I do the N+ I will get that book its about 20 quid

    Thats 100 quid total so far Including exams it will 466 or there about £466 over £4500 I'll take £466.
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  8. zebulebu

    zebulebu Terabyte Poster

    Fair enough, everyone's entitled to an opinion. I'm just saying that it's almost universally accepted amongst people I've worked with in IT that, beyond the very basic stuff (ECDL, A+, N+ - which you would be far better off enrolling in a local college to learn anyway) Training Providers are there for people who already have experience in IT. Anyone without it who enrols on one of those 'get your MCSE in 28 days for six grand' jobbies is deluding themselves - and no training provider should be allowed to enrol them. Believe me, on my MCSE course (which took me a year to complete) there were sixteen people enrolled at the start. Two of us ended up completing it. That means the TP basically took about £40k for passing two people - and I only did it because I was lucky enough to have a hefty redundancy payout to tide me over whilst I studied.

    I'm not suggesting for one minute that TPs shouldn't exist. What I'm suggesting is that, for all the value they provide, you could just spend your six grand on:

    £200 - Books (and that's being generous)
    £1200 - an absolutely top notch PC to run virtual machines on
    £Free - VMWare Server
    £200 - Microsoft Action Pack (or whatever its called this month)
    £1000 - Exam fees - factoring in three re-sits in case you fail (who said I never plan ahead?)
    £3400 - Trip to Vegas
    Certifications: A few
    WIP: None - f*** 'em
  9. Spilly

    Spilly Kilobyte Poster

  10. greenbrucelee
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    greenbrucelee Zettabyte Poster

    Yep give me and Spilly £6800 we will get some stuff of google email you it and fly to Vegas to conquer the casinos :)

    The name of this TP just sounds dodgy never mind the bad press about it.

    It almost sounds like what young boys do whilst looking at porn mags :p
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  11. Glena

    Glena New Member

    you are right about these private training providers, they just charge you alot of money and they don't deliver what they promise. most of them deceive people in to thinking that they will be getting in to employment after completing their program, but the fact is 9 times out of 10 it's too difficult for them to finish the training. Best thing to do is search your local library for colleges that offer these courses for free.
    now about this training provider, place looks very unprofessional which demotivates potential students and staff are also unhelpful, Inspite of the fact that the student pays so much to do the training.
  12. greenbrucelee
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    greenbrucelee Zettabyte Poster

    Well said.
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  13. Glena

    Glena New Member


    I know what you mean, they never call back, if you see them on the floor, they normally say that some one will get back to them, (Directors will get back to them). if you call them they never answer the phone. The Japanese women, she needs help and also some English lessons. come on they are charging people £6000 and can not afford to get an english speaking receptionist??????

    They were taken to court in several occasions, but there is no point because when you read their T/C you'll know what I am talking about. I don't know how they sleep at night.
  14. shadowlazarus

    shadowlazarus Bit Poster

    I was originally going to study with Joskos but after reading the reviews on the Techrepublic I decided not to.

    Thankfully! To think of all that money wasted.

    I did some scouting and some research and it's far better to go to a provided that DOESN'T offer you a job guarantee. Least that way you know (or hope) you're not being conned as they're there to educate you and not make empty promises to lure people in. It's one of the first things I asked when I went over to my current TP if they provided jobs afterwards. They said they could try ask companies that they deal with but don't make any promises like that.

    I'm doing my A+ and N+ and then MCSE next year. The recruitment adviser has already told me that after I pass my first 2 exams of the MCSE to speak to him as he already knows of companies looking for people at that level. It's a nice bonus but it was not a service I expected them to make nor was it initially offered as a cheap gimmic to get me to join.

    Just go with your gut instincts. If something seems too good to be true, it proabably isn't.
  15. here2say

    here2say New Member

    I had very very bad experience with joskos,especially in london,spitfire studios,
    they are the worst people i ever seen in my life,i u have too much money to waste or silly like me then its ok otherwise any senceable person will never go to that place,they will take u straight to downstairs in consultation rooms and then do anything or lie anything to sell the course and try there best to take ur details for money and after that u cannot do anything.after my experience i will say that they are bunch of thives.and u will waste ur money.i am extremely disappointed and advise others think twice before u decide anything,and if really want to go for course do not give them your bank details straight away because they apply interest free credit on your name and then u r finish connot do anything,i will say that come back home(after there advice)and think senseably,do some research then decide.
    they are very greedy people and only intersted in money especially director Jerry O.
    they are deadly worst peole in the town.
    and if they give you experience you will have to lick employer for six months 5 days every week and u will get only travel card for everyday.
    if u really want to go for IT job do some IT certifications (in reasonable price and tution only).update ur CV on monster u will get call from employers and then its down to u how u handle the calls.
  16. Sparky
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    Sparky Zettabyte Poster Moderator

    Errr, ok then. :blink

    You haven’t actually said what the problem is with the TP, just a rant to be honest. :rolleyes:
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  17. Fergal1982

    Fergal1982 Petabyte Poster

    Not sure I like the sound of that. Tasty female employer I could manage, but not if its a male. Would they reciprocate?

    Seriously mate, a random rant, without any real substance, on a 2 year old thread.
    Certifications: ITIL Foundation; MCTS: Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2010, Administration
    WIP: None at present
  18. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

    Yeah, I still can't get the taste out of my mouth... and I feel sooooo used and dirty ! :oops:
  19. JonnyMX

    JonnyMX Petabyte Poster

    If you hold down the shift key you can make UPPERCASE letters, these go at the beginning of sentences as well as some other places.

    With a bit of practice you will also find that you can communicate using whole words. You'll find this handy if you want people to understand you.
    Certifications: MCT, MCTS, i-Net+, CIW CI, Prince2, MSP, MCSD
  20. wizard

    wizard Petabyte Poster

    Or its the sign of someone posting whilst the red mist is still coming down.
    Certifications: SIA DS Licence
    WIP: A+ 2009

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