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Studying the exact questions isn't the same as "studying the subject matter". Using braindumps is no different than stealing a professor's exam from his/her desk and studying that. It's cheating, no matter how much you want to rationalize the behavior.

Besides, it all boils down to this: if you truly understand the subject matter, you don't need braindumps. If you feel you MUST use braindumps, then you're not ready to hold the credential.

All that said, it doesn't matter what we think. Microsoft and CompTIA and Cisco have all stated that using braindumps is cheating and can get you decertified for life. Do you need another reason???

 

I've heard this argument so many times over the years and have become bored with giving the same answer. Its usually been chucked at me by people from the subcontinent who have come to England because they thought it was easy to lie and cheat their way into an IT career. "But we don't understand the questions because English isn't our native language!" they cry, ad infinitum.

Absolute, utter bollocks. If you can read through a list of God-knows how many questions and remember what the answer to them is from a selection of different answers, then you speak enough English to pass the exam. Even if they were somehow able just to pick out answers and memorise them based on the way the words looked - how does that make it right? To all intents and purposes, if that were the case, that person is illiterate (in the language of the country they would be working in) - do you think I'd be able to go and work in the Czech Republic in user support without speaking any Czech? Of course not - its a preposterous suggestion.

I've also heard a similar argument from people who speak English perfectly well, but think that, because MS questions are long winded and designed to trick you into thinking you know the answer when you've just skim-read the question, that is somehow 'wrong' or 'unfair' of Microsoft. Again - absolute bollocks. Why should an exam be simple? Life in the IT world certainly isn't! How many times have you ever had a straightforward question in IT? 90% of the time, the work you'll be doing will require you to think in a circuitous manner.

Its wrong - end of.

 

IT Manager: Hey, how do I do this on this Cisco router?
Braindumper: I don't know
IT Manager: ...but you're a CCNA?
Braindumper: Yeah, but I don't know...
IT Manager: Oh, ok.

Then you've got two options. Either
a) The IT Manager will have no respect for the CCNA certification in future, which has a negative effect on everybody.
b) The IT Manager will realise you've used braindumps and... well... I'll leave that to your imagination, but it won't be a pretty ending.

That, and cheating = lying.

 

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So not only the braindumper who doesnt know the answer, the IT manager too?!! did he use BD in his early days?
I dont see BD as failure but as moral failure, just because not every BD user is so dump not to learn what he needed to, while some successful (not failling) users see them as enhacement tool. also unfair to other people who never used them(like me) who worked hard to achieve their creds.

 

Pardon?

Is that a for or against?

 

The reason I don't use brain dumps is because I am studying the certifications to learn something that will help me in my current and future jobs and brain dumps dont help you so why use them.

A certiifcation on your CV you got through brain dumping may help you get a job but it will also help you lose it once they reslise you dont know nothing and when the next person comes along who did study prroperly for the cert they will probably be judged unfairly due to the person before.

Can we stop brain dumping no, can I carry on learning and studying properly yes

 

There's not much I could add to what everyone else has said... All I know is that's it's wrong, don't do it... When I was in school studying IT, I had one class... it was basic troubleshooting class, all hands on and then the teacher would make up questions and based on the troubleshooting we would answer those questions. At the end of the class, do you know what he did? he had braindumps in his briefcase to give to students who wanted to pass the certification. I remember even then not knowing what a brain dump was because I was new to the field. Needless to say that I never took the brain dump questions and thus it took me 6 months of study to pass the A+ (basic level cert). However in my class we had students pass the certs in literally 2 weeks to 1 month with no experience under their belt... I find that kind of hard to believe unless you have the experience and hands on... I bet they used the brain dumps... I mean they were like a certification machine...

Last I heard they've been looking for a job for over a year now... so how can an MCSA who claims to be experienced can't even get a desktop support job? simple didn't put in the effort and claims to be proficient with their cert...

I've been doing desktop support for 2 years straight before I could start doing server stuff... and I am not even qualified as an MCSA yet based on my experience...

So in general... no braindumps whether you study or not don't benefit you in any way. In fact they hinder your performance because you get acustomed to looking for answers rather then understanding the answer.

 

The IT Manager doesn't have to be expert in every single area. You couldn't realistically expect someone, for example, to be very skilled in Cisco Networking, Hardware Maintenance, Active Directory, Linux and Software Development, so it's the job of the IT Manager to hire people with a specific skillset and delegate!

 

Tottaly against them, I just wanted to comment on the idea that not every BD user is an idiot who will be caught in the future. Relying on BD only to get a cert is a NO NO for me, but if someone having difficulties in some areas and used them as help BUT NOT as substitute of studying and hard work, and proved to be competent in the field, I would think twice before saying ah no dont use them, imo.
I did use Ucertify,transcender and MS review suite for my exams, these materials offer answers to questions similar or maybe the same as the one you might get during the exams. but they are not considered BD.

Just to clear my position, I am NOT defending BD and I didnt use them, but I dont want to be always looking at things from a negative(bad) side.

 

There IS no 'non-negative' side to using Braindumps. You cannot - 100% CANNOT - find a single legitimate reason why ANYONE would use them. Don't expend brain energy trying to do so.

Braindumps = Fail.

Fullstop.

 

Again, if you're having difficulties in some areas, and you feel you MUST use braindumps "as help", as you put it, then you're not ready to hold the cert! It's as simple as that!

If you know the material, and you're truly qualified to hold the certification, then you'll pass. If you don't, and you're not, then you won't. Braindumps only enable you to cheat. Period. There is not a single legitimate justification for using them. Not a learning disorder, not a lack of time, not a lack of real-world equipment, not a lack of experience, not an inability to read in a certain language, not a lack of money to retake, not a fear of embarrassment if you fail, not the threat of losing your job, not anything. There is no legit reason to use braindumps.

But there's no "positive side" to braindumps. They enable people to get certified before they're ready to hold the credential... and much faster than someone who doesn't cheat to get certified. So when these braindumper muppets put those certifications on their CVs, they'll get jobs before you do, because you're still studying legitimately. Then when the employer finds out that they're not qualified to hold the certification because they cheated their way through it, the employer thinks, "Wow, this guy is certified, and he can't do this job? That certification must be easy... and not a good indicator of whether a tech can do this job!" Thus, the certification is devalued, as employer after employer comes to the same conclusion.

Don't believe me? Take a look around. Ask employers whether certifications are a good gauge of someone's ability to do a job. The value and prestige of certifications used to be MUCH higher before braindumps became so prevalent.

Braindumps hurt the certification training industry, as it costs nothing to create "cheat sheets" and sell them, whereas it costs legit providers thousands of dollars to create legitimate study tools.
Braindumps hurt the braindumper by enabling them to certify before they are ready, putting their career on a shaky foundation.
Braindumps hurt the employers who hire unqualified people.
And braindumps hurt YOU, as they devalue the certifications that you work so hard to achieve.

Where's the "positive side"?

 

What the point of studding and taking exam as in more case employers must think A+ MCSA or CCNA are to a penny.

Shame that most of you missed the point of question, Have you not been tempted post #1

 

The original question wasn't "are you tempted", it was "are they (braindumps) wrong" so no point has been missed. If you don't want to see the light then that's entirely your decision but realise that you do risk decertification, which has already been mentioned numerous times in this thread.

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You've got your location down as being 'Earth'.



Are you absolutely sure about that?

 

O the true light of CF has shown it head, And you wonder why not many people stay here and post

Don't read them

 

Presumably because they'd rather be off memorizing braindumps, and not posting on a site which actively discourages their use.

Obviously you're the exception to the rule.

It's very clear from your posts that you wouldn't think twice about using braindumps to 'assist' in your exams, and that's precisely why myself (and others) are less than impressed.

Out of sheer curiosity, what did you expect this thread to achieve?

...Actually scratch that, as advised, I'm not reading your posts, nor feeding a troll.

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