CIW Master Web Manager

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Hi all,

I have just "invested" in the CIW Master Web Manager course provided by Scheidegger in an effort to break into a field that clearly offers more enjoyment and benefits than my current job role.

I live in the UK and from what I've read and checked out with a few companies the CIW certification is only partially recognised. It really seems that its more of a case of producing good solid examples of websites you have made that will secure the interview and job.

I will try and keep this thread updated with my progress to allow anyone in the UK an idea of what a) The Scheidegger company offer in terms of Tutor help, material and other essentials, and b) what the Course itself is like and has allowed for me in the proffessional world of Web design.

I only purchased this 2 weeks ago and already things arn't looking great.

The tutor was apparently supposed to leave me with the first part of the course. He didnt. This has meant that I'm unable to start and so being somewhat proactive I emailed the Tutor I had been assigned and it seems that my name wasnt yet on their computers and untill it was they wouldnt be able to send me the Course.

In her defense she has been polite and extremely quick on responces, explaining this is rare and that she will continue to pursue them untill my course arrives.

If you have any questions then please reply and I will try and answer them however I have only just started so my answers may be limited.

 

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Hi again lokideviluk,

Good luck firstly, and PLEASE - don't be swayed by others' reports elsewhere on the company. Judge for yourself, and as Arroryn posted in Mew Members - you'll get out what you put in. Maybe this first incident was just a glitch, and as you say, they seem to have been quick to try and resolve it for you.

More importantly, thanks for offering to help others during your progress - this is a cert that gets relatively little coverage on our boards, so it woud be great to read "a day in the life of a trainee CIW"

Thanks again

 

Thanks for this info lokideviluk - I am a new member here, trying to get my head round the pros and cons of starting this very course with Sheidegger, and I'm sure your reports will be a great insight!

I really hope that it all works out OK for you. I agree with Jakamoto that your tutor's quick and helpful response is probably a good sign and that perhaps you just experienced an unlucky glitch. I've looked around the comments on here about Shiedegger and there certainlty seem to be be plenty of people who have had good experiences with them.

Hope you're excited about your new venture. All the very best with it

 

Maybe this cert just hasn't caught on yet in the UK? I know several people that have this cert in the States. And I've seen job ads here for people with this cert.

 

Yeh its not massive here yet, but im hoping by the time i finish it, It would have accrued some exposure and be at least known to all the major Web design houses.

Mitz i dont suppose you know what kind of wages they are offering for someone with this Cert in the US?

 

I'm sorry lok but no. They use to post the salaries on flip dog if the employer provide them. However, it seems like they have hooked up with monster now and they appear not to provide this information.

 

This may help?

http://certification.about.com/od/selfstudy/l/bl_02results_b.htm (scroll down)

http://certification.about.com/z/js/o.htm?k=it salaries&d=It Salaries

 

CIW Master Web Site Designer $73,000.00

Is fine with me But of course thats about £40,000, which is still considerable amount for a 23 year old i reackon.

Thanks for the info Sarah!

 

Hi Guys,
seen mixed reactions on the CIW cert courses,obviously at the end of the day, the individual will make his/her mind up but hey could anyone put forward a fair verdict on the claims of CIW certs - for example, the guarantee of getting a >=£25K job straight afterwards. Some CIW -vendor, SkillsTrain makes such claims and I would love to go for it if their claims are substantiated. Please help me out here guys.

 

It really depends on what you put into the course.
As has been mentioned previously, web design, like any other design job requires a strong portfolio to get you into one of the well paid jobs.
It is possible to complete the CIW course whilst never having actually designed or built a web page.
It's important to remember that.
You can put the study in and pass the exams, but you can't then expect to get a £30,000 p.a. job if you've never actually published anything yourself.

The reverse is also true though. I've seen some really talented young designers who haven't got a clue about accessibility, target audience, market research or anything else that CIW teaches you.

In my opinion you have to have both.

 

That seems to link in with what I was told the other day by a Computeach advisor who visited me about a course. I'm in the same position with regards to whether or not to start the course, and whether Computeach are the ones to do it with, but I was told by the sales guy that web design tends to be people who now tons of technical stuff, code, etc, and then those with imagination and creativity, and what he said was that those who do really well are the ones who mix both.

Anyone else looking at Computeach's CIW course????

Anyone done it???

 

I don't necessarily think it makes a difference who you study with in terms of course content. The training providers give you what you need to get the certification. It's not them that's the issue, it's the course. None of them are going to give you over and above the requirements to pass the exams. The extra stuff you really have to do yourself...

 

Hi lokideviluk and everyone else

Ive just signed up for this course today and was left with the 1st part of the course! Had a little look through but been advised not to get too far into it until I have been assigned a tutor which can take up to 3 weeks!

Would be interested in how your progressing lokideviluk and if your problems with the course (or lack of it) were resolved

 

Greetings, thestig. I have no business being in this forum since I know virtually zip about web design, but I'd like to invite you up to the New Members Introduction forum so you can properly introduce yourself and tell us a bit about how you found us. Cheers.

 

Hi

I can remember when I first enrolled from Scheidegger, and he did leave me the first part of the course, and like the pp said, told me to have a start reading it, but to wait until my tutor gets in touch. That was about 5 days luckily.

He came from Luton up to the Midlands, to basically sign me up and assess whether he thought I would be suitable for the Scheidegger course.
This also, of course, meant that he needed to get my bank details to enable Scheidegger to get my course fees from me.
I had no problems of any kind from Scheidegger, and the relevant first Folder came within about 5 days.
Everything was just as the course advisor had stated, and he certainly wasn't there to sign me up and then run...Scheidegger needed to decide if I was up for it, so he interviewedme (well, it was the other way around, actually), but he assured me that it wouldn't be "a walk in the park"; and he wasn't joking!!

I now have 10 folders that I will soon be having to revise.

 

Hi,

I just signed up with skills train (sheidegger) Today. They left me with the first part of the course and i'm awaiting tutor details. The garuntee of a job is really good, they say that the cert is very well
known, but from what you guys say that's not true.

One of the brilliant parts of the course that I find is the software!
Dreamweaver, macromedia flash mx and two others I can't remember.

They say that the course generally lasts for 12months, but i'm aiming to do it in about eight if not sooner. Call me ambitious, but I can't wait to make lots of money and have a job I enjoy. Ultimately, I want to go freelance and eventually set up my own company.

Above all else, working from home is my main ambition. The other great thing about the course is, yes you can get a job with what they give you as a basic course, but you also have the chance to get lots of other course 'add-ons'.

On top of that, they have given me a lone, so I pay in tiny interest free installments of seventeen pounds a week. Now if that's not a bargain, what is?

I'll post again once i've started the learning process.

 

Hi to one and all,
I have just joined sscheidegger last week the guy came round and sort of tried to interview me to go on one of their courses.
Please could someone tell me why they do this ?
I would only apply for a course if i really wanted to do it.
Any how he left the first folder with me and a bag with loads of other stuff in it, He told me that the course would start in two weeks and that i could start reading the folder and get on with loading the disks on my computer.
I am looking forward to getting into the nitt gritt of the course and getting on with designing my own website.
Aswel as working on the course i have been looking for a job or position where some company may let me start as a trainee till i am fully q .
As i always say the world is my oyster.
So come on chin up and look on the bright side of life.

 

Hi Nail bomb,
Yes that's it think of why you are doing the course and you have set yourself in motion, Focus and you will do it.
I want to go to the usa to work wher the money is really good
Good for you keep it up

 

They aren't interviewing you. They are selling to you.
Every salesman in the world does it. It's a role reversal thing. If they try to sell to you, the customer, it puts you in the driving seat as you get to say 'yes' or 'no'.
So what they do is pretend that it's their decision if you get to join the course. That puts them in the driving seat and leaves you begging them to take your money.
It's simple and brilliant.

But it's normal and nothing to worry about. It doesn't make the saleman dodgy or the company dishonest. Every second hand car I've bought, the sales guy has told me he had his eye on that one for his wife. You just have to put up with it.

Sounds like you're off to a flying start. Good luck!

 

Yes Jonny,

i'd agree with you to a certain degree, but they still have to make sure they aren't funding an idiot who will never pass! Skills train get paid by agencies for supplying qualified staff, it works both ways man.