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chanches to get a job in UK

Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by gionny, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. gionny

    gionny Bit Poster

    Hi guys ,
    If someone beetween you works in IT industry in UK , especially in Networking field, could he say me how many chanches has a person to find a good job in UK if the person is CCNP certified , but with the knowledge of a CCIE and he holds a five years degree in Telecommunications Engineering but he is not fluent at english?
    I was forgetting he has Two years of working experience as employee in network industry.

    my english is not too bad , good written knowledge , but when native speakers talk it's a fortune if I understand 30% of all the words :D

    I'm planning to move from Rome to UK , for a new life experience , but I'm worried about to find a job...

    Thanks for every advice

    Certifications: CCNA , CCNP , CCIP
    WIP: CCNA Voice , JNCIA , CCIE R&S
  2. SimonD
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    SimonD Terabyte Poster Moderator

    I am sorry to say that it's probably not a good idea, with limited English and the UK job market as it is I would honestly suggest staying in Italy.
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  3. Mariusz

    Mariusz Byte Poster

    I came here 3,5 years ago.
    Mate on the beginning you will struggle to understand local dialects, Yorkshire, Geordie, Scottish, Irish (is it still English language?), after some time you'll get used to it and you will be fine, but you need to work with different people to learn dialects and slang (factory jobs, bar jobs etc, where lots of people work help in it).
    With your qualifications, depending on luck, but I suppose you will start from being waiter, barman, dishwasher/kitchen porter, night porter, care assistant, hospitality in general. depending where you go and on you luck maybe you will find a job in IT (maybe, it is difficult market and difficult times for IT professionals, until you are really the best) when you improve your language.
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  4. JonnyMX

    JonnyMX Petabyte Poster

    There are an awful lot of people here that speak fluent English and still can't find work.
    You wouldn't be doing yourself any favours.
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  5. cosway

    cosway Nibble Poster

    Despite what some people say, it really doesn’t matter where you come from or how well you speak the language all employers worth working for will make allowances for you to pick the language up (I once worked with a Portuguese web designer who went from broken English to perfect English in about 3 months)

    This may sound a bit patronising but, the British love Italians (I've worked in enough offices to see the girls eyes light up at the sound of an Italian accent, or the boys falling over themselves to be the first to great an Italian lady), Its not a sexual thing, we just seem to have this deep rooted belief that all Italian’s are cool, fashionable and sophisticated, same can be said for almost all accents, for example there's nothing more disappointing than someone with an Irish accent not cracking a joke, or someone with a welsh accent trying to sound too clever or not (I have a seriously Welshy-Welsh accent and the more I try to sound clever the stupider I sound - unless I am stupid - always a possibility) so your accent or poor language skills shouldn't be a major issue.

    Your qualifications sound good enough, you probably won't go to work in a call centre, but most councils/schools/universities would provide good hands on jobs for you until you feel more confident with the language, then on to other opportunities - if you feel that the language barrier is an issue.
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  6. zet

    zet Byte Poster

    Hmm, another thing is work permits - although I don't know if that would apply to you as you live in Europe (I could be wrong). I have a friend from Thailand who is an excellent programmer and achieved a Distinction on his MSc and has around 4 years work experience yet he has trouble getting a job because of his work status (it's limited unless he is sponsored by the company after 3 years or something).
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2011
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  7. Mariusz

    Mariusz Byte Poster

    I wouldn;t worry about work permission
    he will need to register in Home Office (costs around 90 Pounds), and he will get a permission as he is EU Citizen
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  8. ethernet0

    ethernet0 Byte Poster

    Citizens of EU member states have the right to move freely through the EU & settle where they wish. He would only need to show his passport to employers to prove he was a member of an EU member state.
  9. westernkings

    westernkings Gigabyte Poster

    I'm more interested to know why he wants to come to the UK over lets say Germany, or the US, or France or Switzerland or Australia, or Belgium or etc etc.

    What's so special about the UK?
  10. BosonMichael
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    BosonMichael Yottabyte Poster

    I wouldn't say "all employers worth working for." There are more than a few employers worth working for who require English language fluency... just as there are more than a few employers in Italy who require Italian language fluency.
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  11. gionny

    gionny Bit Poster

    thank you to every one for replies..
    At the beginning ,my first desire was to move to Sydney , because one of my best dream is to get out the work office and to go to the seaside for surfing..but there are many many problems with visas and i need to be peaceful without thinking in two months i have to come back italy :( . Instead being an EU citizen i'm eligible to work in UK.

    In Italy ,good IT jobs are only in Rome and Milan , but I hate Rome , too much traffic , public means of transport are very very slow and the bus are full of people.I hope in London, ten minutes ,and with the undergrund, I'll stay wherever i want.Rome is a beautiful city , and you can enjoy a lot, but if you work here you realize that the quality of life is close to the ground :D
    IT jobs in Italy are not rewarded as they should , salary are very low ; maybe if I was a politician I would have had any sort of privilege , escorts,Ruby :D , cocaine, money , fast cars , chauffeurs, best restaurants , most expensive accomodations and so on. If you know politicians you don't need certifications , degree and you can be Telecom manager in one week :D

    After this disgression

    I think London could be a good place to advance in career , because there are many firms that can support you if you are a valid person,who works hard.Maybe I'll suffer hell's pains for your food :D , but it's worth doing.

    My only anxiety is to leave my job in Rome , move to London for doing waiter because IT employers wants young Shakespeare as network engineers :P .I think for that kind of job is more important to resolve problems rather than be a good talker..isn't it ?in the end I'm not good only in speaking , because you speak too fast , but I read a one thousand pages Cisco book in one week...
    I have to take a short cut to bypass this dilemma
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  12. dwhyte85

    dwhyte85 Nibble Poster

    With the second language and a good grasp of the English language you might find alot of companies are interested in you, recently have noticed a lot of 'dual' language jobs where they want English + 1 other European language - you have a value added feature without realising it!
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2011
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  13. billyr

    billyr Kilobyte Poster

    You're written English is very good, I wouldn't worry too much about that and you'll soon pick up the different dialects. If you are trying to avoid crowds and traffic i'd think again about London. It's also the most expensive place to live in europe. Why don't you come over for a week for a fact finding visit.

    You could pay a visit to Newquay for some surfing.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2011
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