Can't see other PC in wireless network.

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  1. mattgrey

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    Hardware:

    Laptop using Linksys PCMCIA wireless adaptor. Running Windows XP Home SP2

    PC, with USB wireless adaptor running Windows XP home SP2

    Linksys wireless router WAG354G connected to internet.

    Setup:

    Both PC and Laptop are wirelessly connected to router and can access internet OK.

    Both have Bullguard V7 installed.

    Both have Windows firewall disabled.

    Problem.

    On both PC and Laptop I have gone through network wizard and setup and a network to share various folders. However neither computer can see the other. Under network my network places on both computers there is nothing.

    I have disabled bullguard and reboot both computers to no avail.

    Both are set on the same workgroup name.

    On each there a shared folders, namely my documents and an entire drive on the desktop.

    HELP!:rolleyes: Probably something very simple causing this but I can't find it. Have googled around and just references to turn off firewalls, run winzard etc etc...

    Any ideas really appreciated.
     
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  2. Sparky
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    Can you ping the PC by I.P and name when using the laptop?

    Also when you are on the laptop goto start>run and type
    \\<pc name> (change the name for the actual name of your PC).

    Do you get a prompt for a username and password?
     
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  3. mattgrey

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    OK, from the laptop cmd prompt.

    ping 192.168.1.66
    request timed out
    request timed out

    \\desktop

    gives a syntax error, guess I am typing something wrong here:rolleyes: ?
     
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  4. mattgrey

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    apologies..

    \\desktop at the cmd gives 'the network location cannot be reached'
     
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  5. Sparky
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    Ok, if you cant ping the desktop then that is a problem. If both can get on the internet then it looks like they are on the same subnet else the router\gateway would not work. Can you run an ipconfig /all on both machines and post here?

    Also try tracert 192.168.1.66 on the laptop, where does the trace bomb out? 8)
     
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  6. mattgrey

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    From the laptop



    C:\>ipconfig/all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LAPTOP
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain_not_set.invalid

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
    rnet NIC
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E4-56-DD-18

    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain_not_set.invalid
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.5.0
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-BF-D8-1E-5A
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.64
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 29 October 2006 12:07:52
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 30 October 2006 12:07:52

    C:\>
     
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    From the PC



    C:\>ipconfig/all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DESKTOP
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain_not_set.invalid

    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain_not_set.invalid
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RT73 USB Wireless LAN Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-2E-88-B1-1B
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.66
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 29 October 2006 12:01:57
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 30 October 2006 12:01:57

    C:\>
     
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  8. mattgrey

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    tracert still running, so far timed out on all attempts


    edit, now finished, all timed out
     
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  9. Weemez

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    I really dont know too much but is

    "Client for microsoft networks" ticked in the network properties?

    Apologies if im stating the obvious its just that was my mistake when i did this!:oops:
     
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    Yeah, it is ticked. No need to apologise, I'm sure it is something obvious, I just can't find what!
     
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  11. Weemez

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    Think this may be what you have already mentioned but have you gone into

    my computer:

    right-click C: drive and allowed sharing?
     
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  12. Sparky
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    I take it the the Linksys router is the DHCP source?

    Is it possible to type route print at the command line on the laptop and post it here?
     
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    On the PC I have enabled sharing on D:, this is the drive I want to be avaliable. It shows it as a shared drive, but still cannot see it from the laptop.
     
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  14. mattgrey

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    Not too sure about the terminology, but if I am following you here....I intend that all data goes between the 2 computers via the router, not direct between the two?




    C:\>route print
    ===========================================================================
    Interface List
    0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
    0x2 ...00 0a e4 56 dd 18 ...... Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - P
    acket Scheduler Miniport
    0x3 ...00 14 bf d8 1e 5a ...... Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.5.0 - Packet Sched
    uler Miniport
    ===========================================================================
    ===========================================================================
    Active Routes:
    Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
    0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.64 25
    127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
    192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.64 192.168.1.64 40
    192.168.1.64 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 40
    192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.64 192.168.1.64 40
    224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.64 192.168.1.64 40
    255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.64 2 1
    255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.64 192.168.1.64 1
    Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
    ===========================================================================
    Persistent Routes:
    None

    C:\>
     
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  15. Sparky
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    Yeah, you are on the right track

    You need to configure I.P routing....

    Edit: I just checked my server and it has I.P routing enabled (you can see you dont have this enabled in your ipconfig /all), is there an option for this in the Linksys box?
     
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  16. zebulebu

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    Presumably this is a workgroup, not a domain?

    Why have you disabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP? Its a fallacy that you have to disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP because its a security risk - certainly you should do this if the NIC concerned is directly connected to the Internet, but sitting behind (what I presume) is a NAT router, this isn't necessary. Without NetBIOS over TCP/IP, network neighbourhood won't work. Try enabling this in the properties of your NIC.

    Also, try connecting to the default admin share of the drive concerned (\\DESKTOP\D$)
     
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    rrrrrrrriiight:oops: :rolleyes:



    ermm, huh...configure IP routing....sounds like one for google:D !
     
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    LOL!

    Not at all mate, its nice and simple.

    Go into the properties of the network card, double-click the entry named 'Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)', click the 'Advanced' button, then under the tab marked 'WINS', check the 'Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP' box.

    WARNING - NEVER, EVER do this on a NIC that is directly connected to the internet. NEVER!
     
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  19. Sparky
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    As Zeb has pointed out the folowing part of the ipconfig /all is causing the problem.

    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
     
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  20. Weemez

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    Can i ask guys is this because NetBIOS can track other computers by name as opposed to IP?

    Just to confirm why this is done.

    Thanks
     
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