Braindumps found on works computer!

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  1. danielno8

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    You're lucky GBL.
     
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    ..real lucky.
     
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  3. ThomasMc

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    Should you be posting this in a Public forum GBL :blink
     
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    GBL doesn't give names of people or companies so I think he's OK. Just goes to show, as some of our members said, avoid this, its an absolute mine field, they were right. Nothing happened to GBL but we were worried that it might have :S
     
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  5. Rob1234

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    Well done GBL, you reported her and stuck to your principles about BD would of been easy to say nothing and ignore it but you did the right thing even if it was not the easiest option.

    Maybe you could offer to give her a bit of training and help with the certs? after all you did say she had nice baps.
     
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    There is no expectation of privacy on a workplace computer. It's the property of the company.

    That said, I agree with Daz about talking it over with the girl... let her know what braindumps are and why she shouldn't be using them.

    Would I tell my manager if I had found them? Absolutely. I don't want to be working with (and have to clean up after) some braindump muppet. That said, I wouldn't go reporting her to Microsoft or CompTIA or Cisco unless I were absolutely sure that 1) she was using them, 2) she knew what they were, and 3) she is unapologetic about using them despite knowing what they were.
     
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    Sadly, many hiring managers aren't technically qualified enough to ask those technical questions... or to catch someone out when they're just spitting lines of nonsense.
     
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  8. Fergal1982

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    Perhaps in the US, but in the UK privacy laws do have an impact on the company machines to some extent. Whilst the hardware belongs to the company, "snooping" on a users files is a touchy subject, and one in which HR need to be involved in to keep things right.
     
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    That's all well and good... but there's no reason to bring it to that level. There's no reason to involve HR in something as minor as finding braindumps. Had he found pornography or pirated materials, that'd be different.

    Just my opinion. You can disagree if you wish.
     
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  10. greenbrucelee
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    To be honest I couldn't give a crap about privacy. To my mind I have saved the company from hiring someone who could potentially do more harm than good and thats how my manager has seen it too.

    The girl doesn't know that it was me all that the manager has told her is that she has been found to download braindumps from her works computer and used them to try and get ahead of the competition. Plus the fact she didn't know diddly squat apparently.

    Now I have been speaking to her about what study materials to get and if she needs any help in understanding any topics she is finding difficult but she refuses to and says that the £70 something quid she used for each braindumps braindump plus paying for the exams is more than enough money spent and it should open a door for her.

    BTW I said to her that the manager said you found most of the technical questions hard and if she wanted help. I didn't let on that I knew about the braindumps.
     
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    I'm not saying HR should be involved, just that investigating the contents of someones files without authorisation can lead to trouble in the UK. It means that extreme caution should be used when dealing with matters such as this, lest there be fallout on your own head.
     
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    right up until the point where your "couldn't give a crap" lands you without a job.

    You may not care about the privacy concerns, but your employer couldnt give a crap about your opinion on the matter.

    Put it like this: there have been cases of unfair dismissal tribunals being won by the employee because they were sacked over material found without due care.
     
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    He was authorized to investigate the contents of someone's files. I dunno about you guys, but if I'm manually checking for viruses or spyware, and I see a directory I don't recognize, I look in it. Had I found braindumps, I would have told my IT manager, and that's the only person I'd have told, because the IT department is the only people that would affect. At that point, my IT manager can decide what to do with the information. Had I found someting illegal, I (or my manager) would have also gotten HR involved and let them decide what to do with it. Either way, there'd be no fallout on my head; I've reported to the proper authorities and they can decide to take action, escalate the issue, or let it drop.
     
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    Fixing the hard drive isnt authorisation to investigate the contents of the users data. Particularly in the UK the whole area is a very touchy subject and needs to be handled with extreme care.

    That said, GBL was quite lucky to get away with it. Since the matter has been resolved, its all worked out in the end.
     
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    what I did ^

    I was asked to check things opened on the drive and made sure apps worked etc so thats what I did.
     
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    I'm sure you mean "in general", but it is obvious that HIS employer couldn't give a crap about the privacy concerns either.

    But that's the point - nobody's gonna be sacked over this... not GBL, not the girl, not anybody. Had the girl lost her job, then she could decide whether to raise hell or not.

    Ultimately, it was the manager's decision with what to do about the situation. He chose to tell the girl that they found braindumps on her computer. You might believe that the manager "gambled and won", and if that's the case, so be it. But I think the right thing was done.

    Put it like this: had GBL's employer fired him over finding braindumps on the computer and reporting the discovery ONLY to his manager, then that's probably not an employer who was going to be good to work for, long term. But... that didn't happen.
     
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  17. BosonMichael
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    If I'm investigating viruses, I'm gonna check ALL the users' data. Don't like it? They can come after me. I can justify the decision.

    We're just gonna have to disagree; I feel it is warranted, and you do not.
     
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    I knows its worked out but I dont think your getting it, I was asked to check everything opened on the drive and everything worked as it should which is what I did. simples
     
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  19. zebulebu

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    Really? You opened and checked everything on the drive? That must have taken some time...
     
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  20. greenbrucelee
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    Yep took from 8:45am until 1pm
     
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