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delphi is another programming language although in my opinion isn't as functional as C++

 

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Delphi is Object Pascal, it was probably way ahead of its time and was largely created by a russian genius I believe, .Net C# probably spells the death knell for Delphi and many other languages.

Mathematix is right in that you should consider the idea of Domain Specific Languages, what you want to do should affect the langauge/s you learn, of course if you have enough time you can eventually learn many.

Originally you didn't specify any criteria so I suggested C.

Web languages are things like PHP,Java/JSP,.Net/ASP,Ruby/Rails.

Not sure what you mean by office, but if you mean MS Office automation you are looking at C++,VB or any .Net CLR compatible language.

So given these assumptions C# .Net/ASP could be a good choice.

 

You could begin with experiments in VBA by using MS Excel. Try recording some of your actions as macros and viewing the results. Reading and understanding code is an important first step. Next try some IF and Select Case statements. You will probably see a select case statement in the macro that you have recorded. Once you are able to print the screen using a message box or the command screen you will feel in control and the rest will follow.

 

/me jumps up and down and cheers

I agree with this 100%. Many of the best programmers I have met understand quite a lot of what goes on under the hood, because this enables them to fine tune their routines.

Harry.

 

I do see what you mean, Meyers would draw comparison to a racing driver having to know how it works under the bonnet to be a good Driver and i do agree.

going to pop over to hardware forum now having problem ghosting a hard drive, never rains when it pours.

 

thanks dmarsh26 book has now arrived im going through it now.

 

conio.h my friend god I hate programming.

You must have patience to be a programmer I have some but not enough.

 

I always found the subject really dull unless I was programming for a purpose, ie to create something - but definitely not enough patience.

.... that said, I may try again one day!

 

me too although I wont be trying again.

 

How can you program without 'creating something'?

Programming is quite an intense activity when you take on a challenging project. Give it a go - it's fun!

You too, GBL.

 

It didn't matter how many times I tried or was shown I just couldn't take it in. I am someone who can learn if it really interested me and unfortunately programming didn't/doesn't sorry.

It imo was all about being very structured and completly methodical there was no work arounds which annoyed me slightly. Thats probably why it didn't interest me.

 

Programming's not for everyone.

Yep, it is very structured, but there are usually many ways to solve a particular problem. That's where the 'freedom' comes in in selecting the best way to solve a problem.

Our IT guy at work never was into programming, but now he sees us doing it he has taken up Python and I think a bit of Java. He feels free to come over and ask us for hints and tips whenever he gets a little stuck. He has been doing this now for about three months solid, and his knowledge and skill have made a marked improvement. Even the way he reasons about situations has slightly changed; before he used to conclude on a matter in a whim, now he talks himslef through things to us and more logically comes to a conclusion. I actually don't think he has realised yet, though.

 

I'm one of them, BASIC and HTML thats about my limit

That sounds cool , C++ pissed me of then there was ASP and that made me want to kill people especially the bloody prof who taught it because he looked like a tramp and smelled and he never had anything useful to say.

 

Very true - I suppose what I mean is that I create something that interests me, something I'd find "useful" or at least has a purpose - coding to complete a project for my degree just wasn't enough inspiration

As I said, when I get a bit of free time, I'll probably start having a look again - assuming I don't find a job before then has a requirement for scripting/programming!

 

Typing on forums is free time to burn! Get to some programming...

 

You say that like we can just abandon the forums whenever we wish. Dude, it's not that easy. Once in, you're in for life.

 

Me ->
Certforums ->

 

An offer you can't refuse.

 

hehe - it takes less thought.... thats why I end up waffling a lot

 

Heh, guys!