BCS Enterprise and Solution Architecture

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  1. JK2447
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    Hi All

    Has anyone studied for the BCS certificate in Enterprise and Solution Architecture? I think work will put me through the training once I start my Solutions Architect role but it would be good to hear from someone who has studied this. I'm not sure if I'll be studying TOGAF initially as I think this is more aimed at Enterprise Architects...

    I'll be glad to get back in with the BCS as I achieved the CITP once upon a time but due to job and company changes I decided to stop this. I might pick this back up too if I can.

    Cheers
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    This does sound interesting, let us know how you get on with this. Do you know if you're going to be doing the training course or will you be self-studying?
     
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    Will do Ken. I think the course although I don't know a great deal yet. Where I work, once you accept a job you can be in your current role for up to 2 months so it will be a little while yet before I know what I'm doing but I hear this is one they send you on. Looks rally good doesn't it. Massively handy in my new role. I'd imagine it would be very handy for you Ken as you cover a large range of work yourself don't you. I'm looking forward to a course on methodologies instead of what buttons to press ha ha
     
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    Yup I did this back in 2011, both the foundation and practitioner.

    Passed the foundation first time, failed practitioner by one point lol. Annoyingly they had just upped the pass mark required by 5 points so if I'd have done it a month earlier would have passed.

    Retook it and passed, did all mine through QA on a week long course. Instructor was very good I thought.

    A lot of it is common sense, and if coming from a techy role one of the biggest challenges is changing your way of thinking from very defined answers (click this button to do this) to more business orientated 'wishy washy' thinking ;)
     
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    Thanks Monkey I appreciate your views on this mate. Sounds definitely worth doing. I do like the offerings from the BCS and hopefully this will aid me in my new role. I just hope I can maintain my techie skills to the degree that I hope. I don't see why not....
     
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    I'd say it's nothing groundbreaking to learn, however I wasn't in a pure architect role to make use of it all. If there's already frameworks etc in place where you're moving over to then it may help you get a leg up in understanding some of it.

    Funnily enough I went on an internal course at work the other week which was basically architecture 101 in the companies methodology and unsurprisingly it's all very similar.

    One thing with the ISEB/BCS thing is the content is framework neutral, you cover TOGAF and Zachman briefly but not great detail as it's a 'vendor neutral' course.

    Got a huge ring binder of course notes out of it though, can't remember where I've put it now!
     
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    Thanks mate thats exactly what I was after. I'm going into an entirely architectural role so sounds like it will suit me well. No more clicking buttons for me.... not sure how I feel about that. Thinking I'll compensate by building a monster lab at home ha ha I'll still need my fix :)
     
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    hi there,
    I appreciate this thread is a few months old.
    I was looking at doing a course "BCS Intermediate and Practitioner Certificates in Enterprise and Solution Architecture" and wondered how you got on with it?
    My concern is that it might not be that relevant to my job role.
    -Al
     
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    Hi, I'm still waiting for the course so can't comment yet. What do you work as do you mind I ask?
     
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    I work for a small but expanding IT support company. We do a lot of installation work but the projects are usually a few weeks at the most. We install switches, firewalls, virtual server etc. As we get bigger and bigger contracts I've been asked to do more "architecture" work
     
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    I'd say it would be a good course for you in that case. If you've got experience of multiple technologies, and are getting involved in more and more design work, looking at what needs to go in rather than putting it in, I reckon you would benefit from this.
     
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    Ok thanks for the advice
     
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    FYI have booked to do the course in Jan. Quite looking forward to it.
     
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    Nice one mate, do you mind giving your thoughts on it when you get back? Really keen to hear more about this course.
     
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    sure no prob
     
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    Any news on this as it does indeed sound interesting.
     
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    Well I've done the course as was a little disappointed to be honest.

    Its very academic and I didn't take too much away from it. There is a lot covered but we didn't go into enough detail on what I would consider the useful things like TOGAF or Zachman. Almost all the people on the course were software not infrastructure architects. They may have a different opinion to me.

    There was a case study which helped tie the work to the real world but that was quite dated.

    The exam was a bit silly also - multiple choice but hand written. You would think the BCS would be able to arrange a computer based exam with instant results.

    The trainer was good but I don't think I'd recommend the course. I hear the BCS are reviewing it.

    -A
     
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    Disappointed to hear that but thank you for your feedback. I come from an infrastructure background too. Cheers
     
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    To be honest with you, pretty much what I expected from the BCS actually. I had BCS membership for a year but it honestly did nothing for me.
     
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    I am trying my best to get on board with the BCS but to be honest, I am the same. I've asked for this course and still hope I get it but in terms of membership, I got my CITP then decided to discontinue my membership. The material I received when I became a CITP was very good, but apart from that, I didn't get much out of it, which I admit may or may not be my own fault, I don't know.
     
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