AWS / Azure vs VM's - in a Lab perspective

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Which do you prefer for a Lab?

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  1. Jaron78

    Jaron78 Gigabyte Poster

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    I have been watching a few training courses recently and a lot of them seem to suggest using something like Azure, or AWS for building labs....and I cant see why. Why not just use a VM?

    Obviously if you dont have the hardware to support a VM I get that but in this day and age....

    Am I missing something?

    be good to get some views please.
     
  2. JK2447
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    Hiya mate, I think what they're referring to is that you can spin up a few VMs and pay as you go in the public cloud, rather than drop a few hundred or thousand on a home lab that you have to maintain. Also things like vSphere 7 came our yesterday, it's got a hardware compatability list and kit you may have bought may not work on your home lab. Stuff like that isn't a problem with Azure and AWS. They'll mean what I would term Native Azure and AWS. You can get VMware on these public clouds but it's enterprise business level money as you can imagine. If you just want a play, google and I think oracle will give you a free VM in their public clouds. I've had a play with Googles GCP. Pretty cool for free
     
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  3. thetokyoproject

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    Hi, have you managed to set up some windows servers on Oracle or GCP? I've never seen these before so is it quite straight forward to do?
     
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    Also, if you are setting up 2 or 3 MS servers for a lab/study environment, which service would have the cheapest rates? Thanks
     
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    Very straight forward. I’ve only used Google Cloud personally but you setup your free account. You get $300 worth of credit, good for one small VM. It asks you what OS and away you go
     
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    Wow, that's really nice to hear - hadn't considered GCP before but since they give you free credit, I'll give that a go. Also, a good chance to learn something about GCP - thanks so much for the heads up JK2447!
     
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    Exactly mate. Win win. You’re a public cloud guru now :)
     
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  8. dmarsh

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    AWS you get a free tier, but it sucks for anything but linux as Windows servers need lot ram.
     
  9. Jaron78

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    Ah I getcha. Thanks Jim.
    Wasnt looking at the bigger picture. Couldnt see why I would need to usw AWS or Azure to run a couple of Linux VM's :)

    On the flip side, had an Interview yesterday for an MSP. They require you to get your Azure cert within 3 months of being there. Had another Interview in the afternoon that went well and they use AWS.

    Looks like I need to look at those after Ive done the JNCIA :)

    Thanks again mate.
     
  10. Juelz

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    I guess it all boils down to speed.. IT Pros are always looking for ways to do things faster, spinning up a VM in Azure is done in minutes sometimes seconds.. I just installed SQL server on my laptop which didn't actually take long (20 mins maybe), but it could have been done faster and much more automated in Azure. I had to physically sit and punch keys in to make it work, with Azure you select a few drop downs and away you go. ALSO you don't need to worry about maintaining the hardware as that Microsoft's job, so there are definitely benefits to it.
     
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