another vista nightmare

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hi all, thanks in anticipation for any response.

i'm still a newbie at this so please excuse my ignorance.

i have recently bought a laptop with vista pre-installed, didn't have much of a choice, but that's another story.
however, as i have been very comfortable with xp for a while now, i didn't think twice about removing vista from the laptop and installing xp, for many reasons, including the network probs i've heard many other people are having.
little did i know what i was walking into...

my plan was to simply format the complete hard drive on the laptop, then install xp as normal. i did try installing it over vista first, only to be reminded that xp is now an older os. i also tried the compatibility wizard, and the website, both returned the problem is i am trying to install old over new.
but even after formatting the drive, i still cannot install xp.
after the first stage of installation, keyboard, floppy drivers etc, i encounter a STOP error message which i seem to recall encountering before on other machines, which i think means it cannot find a hard drive to install onto.

i have searched the forum for help, and did find 1 promising thread. someone had said to create a seperate partion on the hdd, and install to that, but that has not worked, with the same error messages.

in short, i want to be able to remove vista and install xp pro. i am stumped after trying the most obvious solutions first.

please please pleassee can any one help? many thanks

 

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I think that I have seen this problem before.

Is the hard disk in the new laptop SATA? you may need to download the dirvers from the manufacturers website and install them when XP setup requests third party drivers.

It would also be worthwhile checking the XP Hardware Compatibility List to make sure that the components will all work under XP. Just because they work under Vista doesn't automaticaly mean they will work under XP.

 

loved your tech support post by the way!

yes it is SATA. the only problem is the laptop does not have a floppy drive! would i need an external usb drive or do u think i could use a usb pen drive?

also, i have trid to find the hcl for xp, but cannot, only for vista???

 

Hmm....Seems that as MS pushes for us all to go for Vista that the XP HCL has gone missing from their website.

 

According to this http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx page the HCL for Vista and XP are in the same spot.
If you follow the link you'll get to the vista page. Near the top you find two 'buttons', one for windows vista, and one for windows xp.

 

No, but you'll have to look harder

 

AFAIK the Sata drivers for XP *must* be on a floppy. However, *if* you can put the SATA controller into 'IDE mode' then drivers shouldn't be needed.

I know it doesn't help, but my advice on laptops is always "Never change the OS unless you *know* the replacement will work"!

Harry.

 

Could you not make a slipstream version of the XP disk with the required SATA drivers and updates on it? Im not sure how to do it but im sure there is a program that can do it, just cant think of the name at the moment.

 

Heres a few links that might help
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To--Slipstream-your-XP-installation
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog/articles/SlipstreamWindowsXpInstall.aspx
And the google search page with tons of items
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=adding+sata+drivers+to+a+slipstreamed+xp+disc&meta=

 

I wondered that after I wrote the previous posting - so I googled it.

It appears that you *can* do this, but it is fairly complicated. I've also seen the suggestion that some of the auto-slipstream tools can do some of this for you.

Harry.

 

I done exactly the same after my original post, found a few good links above. Still cant remember the name of the program that could do it for you tho.

 

Hi,

just had the same thing. Iv just bought an HP Pavillion, had Vista premium, i like it, but buggy in that things like the webcam would record and playback at a rate that was like a comedy FF sketch, little things, may seem unimportant, but i'll wait fo service pack 1 i think. I had to disable SATA support in the BIOS and then went ok. Only thing i couldnt sort which i think is a Vista issue was TMP(Trusted Platform Module), other than that its all good now.

Kat

 

thanks all. am looking into the slipstreaming, will take some time to understand it first.

i borrowed an external floppy drive, went to the manufacturers website to download the driver, it pointed me to a file to download that was actually named a cd/dvd drive driver (definatley selected the right product and stuff). anyway, tried it on the floppy when prompted, but now there's a message - the file txtsetup.oem could not be found - am i missing something????

 

Was the driver you downloaded a zip file (or an exe)? If so you will need to expand the archive. If you can't see the requested file on the floppy then you will have to look further for the drivers.

Harry.

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/System-Tweak/Autostreamer.shtml

I used this to Slipstream Service Pack 2 into XP.

 

Good point mate.

Theres a good guide here for installing XP after Vista in a dual boot config.
http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

 

it was a zip file.

i extracted all files first, even tried moving the files in subfolders to the root. can't help thinking it's completely the wrong drivers. trying to search the net for it seems it will take forever. don't mean to appear lazy, is this the challenge ahead?

 

am i to look for the specific hard drive driver or any toshiba hard drive?

 

Its the sata driver you need for your specific computer, whats the make and model?