Wheres the big money in IT?

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Wheres the money located? Looking at support roles like 2nd/3rd its all under 30k.. wheres the big money located?

 

Sales ;)

 

I think our Devs are on about 80 / 90k basic as Contractors.

 

Thing that scares me about contracts is what if you dont get another? I actually got offered a contract role and turned it down.

 

You sir, just hit the nail on the head.

Some people are in the right situation to do so. Single, no commitments, kids etc. - easy to go contracting and build up a good bank roll.

You also need to travel, if you're going to take on a contract role - you should consider doing so anywhere within the UK (Providing the money is right)

I've only had one major contract, which was a years work in Scotland, i stayed there 4 nights a week, and went home on weekends back to Bristol. I was earning 600/day.

 

A few times recently I have had to show people with > 10 years in IT how to do real simple stuff (one of them stopped to write down how to get the pipe character for Powershell cmds). This seems to be a problem related to going contractor at the very start of their careers and getting overpaid for monkey work. At that level, contractors may not be given skill enhancing chores.

 

In my pocket !

 

It is something I am thinking about.

As I said before, Jane and I are looking to goto New Zealand for a year or so and see how we like it. Would contract for a year to see how we get on.

Need to get my networking exams and experience sorted out

 

So this year I have had three different roles, I was made redundant at the end of January after nearly 5 years in the role. I eventually got a contractor role in April that was supposed to be for 6 months, it involved spending every other week in Spain working with the client out there. After two months I was let go as they cancelled the project, luckily they paid me 30 days notice and I managed to survive until September when I landed a perm role (home based working with an international team based around the clock).

Whilst the contracting money was decent (the months notice kept me going for 3 months after the end of the role) I was determined to get back in to a perm role as it was reliable money, having kids and a mortgage to pay now days means no more risking it all on good contracts.

If you have any money concerns at all then I really would question whether contracting is the right choice and Juelz I know you have a small child so think carefully.

 

Absolutely, the last couple of companies I've worked in have had a fairly flat structure which (among other things) meant their engineers gained skills without having the opportunity to actually 'move up' which allowed the companies to keep salarys relatively low.

My new job sees me in a growing business who are investing in training and offering salary increases to match as people grow into their roles (and had a nice healthy pay bump when I joined!).

 

For permanent roles, I guess the money is in security, and DCs.

 

I contracted for three months before perm. Tbh they didnt offer that much more than the perm role...

 

"Watch or the job sites to see what sort of wonga your role commands elsewhere"

Yes, but also consider the cost of living. I think to maintain the same quality of life in London, as I would in Leeds, I'd need to earn around triple what I do in Leeds.

 

Depends what you're systems you're working with as to what money you can command in contracting.

Also remember, lets say your company were paying you $10 an hour, they're also paying probably another $8 - $10 to the recruitment agency on top of that.

Sorry for the $ - can't find the GBP symbol and can't be arsed to look for it and copy and paste

 

I'm motivated by the money lol, but I'm happier with a better quality of life tbh. I mean what's the point of earning double the amount in the south (You won't. At best you'll earn 10K more), to never be able to own your home? More so in London - people there can't afford a house, and can't afford a car. At least in Reading, you can afford a car (Well people can afford a car, but they can't afford the rent for the parking space for the car) I just think "What's the point"

It's quite depressing that pretty much every one in the south talks about "rent" - even senior engineers on what maybe 50-60K. It's quite depressing to think that a guy that earns that much, lives in a two bedroom flat, paying £1400/month, with his wife and two kids. Then he has to own a (very old) car, to drive to Reading, from London. I just think...why?

 

That's fine. THe same principle applies tbh