I’ve started WW3 at work

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Juelz, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. Juelz

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    And I have no regrets, enjoying the drama if Im being totally honest, as it is making the mundane office life abit more interesting. I stoodup for my fellow techies and made it clear to the IT director we are seriously underpaid, management probs hate me but my fellow techies on the front-line look at me like the leader of a cival rights movement. Someone had to say something, everyone spoke about saying something but they all just kept dreaming and never actually said a word.. no doubt they will all stab me in the back later on down the line but in all honesty I’ve grown to not care.
     
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    Yep. I understand what you're getting at. However, your IT Director probably knows there is a queue half a mile long of people willing to do your job for the same pay or less.

    If you feel you're underpaid then just move on.
     
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    Well done for growing a pair, now dust off the old CV :)
     
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  4. Juelz

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    Nope, the people on the desk know the system inside and out we all have specialist skillsets, they already said if a few key players (one being me) were to leave they dont know what they would do.There are things that we have put into place/built that we have purposely not documented.
     
  5. Juelz

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    Yeah tbh I only did it due to having backup plans.
     
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    I’ll crack the jokes – everyone is replaceable. If you are not happy with your current pay then move on – simple.
     
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    I'm having difficulty understanding the situation. If you weren't happy with the compensation offered, why did you accept the job?

    You should really be careful with stuff like this. If I were you I wouldn't burn your bridges, it could come back to haunt you. Especially early on in your career. It's a small world, after all.
     
  8. Juelz

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    If I plan to move on then I have very little to lose voicing my opinions..
     
  9. Juelz

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    Explained in a previous thread.. but to summarise pay increase + training are just a few promises that have not matured.
     
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    And if your next employer asks for a reference?
     
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    You are mistaking me standing up for myself with rudeness. I voice my opinion in a respectful way, whether it’s agreed with or not is a different matter.
     
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    This is true. A bad reference could screw you over in the future. Hopefully you’ve got something lined up
     
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    Its good that you have done this, however you may be cast as the militant one ha ha. There is a process in our place if we feel we arent getting what we deserve, which when in my old role I did nearly pursue, however rather stupidly, i decided to go to the line manager at first and basically hit a brick wall, he wouldn't have supported me at all.

    However then my new role came up, more money etc and the work can be stressful at times but no way as bad as what I was doing, I mean i was getting in at 7 and sometimes leaving at 8 or 9. Its a shame as I did like the job as I was very hands on. Also the new techies that are there now, haven't even got the new image properly sorted yet and people are due to start next week.....

    In regards to a reference, they cant legally give you a bad one and when it comes to the application form just dont cite that as a reason for leaving which I am sure you wont. In regards to a reference, is there anyone else other than your line manager you can put down as a ref?

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    I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that they couldn't give you a bad reference?
    They can refuse the right to give you a reference but not actually give you a bad reference.

    My last company didn't give references full stop. They would confirm you worked there between X dates but that was it.
     
  15. Jaron78

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    Should have read the whole convo shouldn't I!
     
  16. nisseki

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    I think these days employers only do employment references - confirming to worked there and dates

    I never had to do a personal reference.
     
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    You may both be correct. I’m old. Things have probably moved on since I was a lad so in that case. Disregard my outdated concerns ha ha! Good intentions behind them though I assure you. Nothing but love and support for any fellow Certforums members
     
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    I personally don't understand personal references.

    Any employer could give a really good reference just to get rid of the person and vice versa, if a manager was allowed to give a bad reference he/she could sabotage the new job out of spite.

    Thankfully we have a law that prevents that.
     
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    I don't think there is any such law. However, a bad reference, if false, could be challenged as libel. Hence why most org's today just state when you worked at the place and that's all.
     
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    Don't let animus towards your employer lure you into unprofessionalism, and never trust anyone in IT who tries to make themselves irreplaceable. You should document that stuff like a pro so that you can always look down on those who fail to do this basic part of the job.
     
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