Firefox myths...

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I use Firefox and find it better and easier to use than IE7, I use various extension and add-ons such as ad-blocker and no-script and I think its pretty stable.

Although I do think there is a marked difference between IE6 & IE7 and don't have a problem with IE7.

 

oh noes. when is this thread going to be locked down by the admins with ulterior motives. And it was nice knowing you Ken, but your account is going to be deleted and your IP blocked now.

 

I downloaded and installed FF the other night on my new lappy. for my webdesigning. Yes it was very painfull to do that to her but I need to make sure everything works in both browsers. It is a shame what a artist must go though and suffer to make sure their creations will live on. Ohhhh the pain, the misery and torture my mother has caused me...

 

Hahahahaha, I found out this morning that the template I've been tweaking for the last few days.... isn't IE-compatible. Tried to find help with it, and the general consensus was 'if users insist on using IE, then they've only got themselves to blame'.

Funny how I keep forgetting to test websites in IE

 

I do have enough sense left to realize there are a lot of people that use ff though I don't see the reason why myself. Opera will be another one I will download next to test in because that one is on the rise too. However, if I go to a site and can't view it because I am using IE then I don't need to be there. I'll not be forced to use another browser because a web designer couldn't take the time to be bother.

 

(Gasps) You use IE by choice???

The only times I've stopped using FF is because I've got too many damn tabs open...

Free templates are one thing - like the one I was battling with this morning - no money to them, so no need to fine-tune it or support it, but my boss bought a template yesterday though, and it's nearly as wonky in IE - not happy about designers charging money for templates which are incompatible with the predominant browser!

 

Because IE is not standards compliant, you have to "hack" a website to make it function in IE, don't know how much Microsoft have addressed this in the latest version.

 

That's exactly what I was reading today - it's not that people are being peverted in choosing other browsers, but IE's inability to handle css-driven sites. IE7 is meant to be a lot better than IE6, but still not quite there... (i.e. hacks still needed but less hair ripped out along the way).

 

I don't think I"ve heard of this before wizard. When I first started doing websites IE competion was netscape. I didn't have a promble with IE but I did with netscape. I didn't have to write a hack for anything in IE which is good because I don't know how too. And I had pictures, menus, slide shows and forums on those sites just using html and some js throw in.

 

I agree 100% with you here harp.

 

... and don't get me started on the revolting colour schemes of a lot of the commercial templates ... !

 

IE7 seems ok to me but I still prefer FF.

 

Umm.... http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=css+problems+IE6&meta=

General consensus is that IE prefers nice safe tables, and loses the plot with too much css. (So do I, for that matter )

 

That would explain why I've not really heard of it. When I started was back in 99/00. We are going back 9 years and I did use tables then. Alot has changed since then including html itself. I've had to start all over because I don't even remember css from back then. Tags that I'm use to are no longer the standards. / has been added where once they were not needed. I'm basically a newbie all over again. But so far having fun. Right now am just trying to learn XHTML and CSS so I know what the hell my dreamweaver is doing with it. I know I really don't need to do this with dreamweaver, because it can and will do it all for you but I'm one of those people that must know how it is done and made. And understand it all at the same time.

 

Yeah, I started out in the 90s too, and it's only been since I've been working with content management systems for the last 3 years that I'm having to wade through so much CSS. (And then having to explain the difference between a PHP-based site and one which has lots of individual HTML pages which can all be designed separately )

Haha, I was playing with frames a few weeks ago in Dreamweaver or Nvu and it spat out the code!!

I like Dreamweaver - the colour-coding makes it so much easier to read through files

(Falling asleep zzzzz)

 

Good night harp, I enjoyed this thread, even though we have high-jacked wags thread in the oppsite direction. Sorry about that wag!

 

It would not be a problem if IE were industry standards complaint. Not my fault Microsoft decided to use bad proprietary code.


So now you must suffer using a superior and safer browser...

 

Me too - worth staying up late for!

(Uhhh, what was this thread about in the first place? Forgotten! )

mrobinson - well said!!!