Boson sim lacking in some features? Any others that are better?

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  1. Firemouse

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    Seems that alotof functions of basic ccna netoworking are unaviable on boson :( the hosts cant pick up dhcp addresses and it doesnt have the helper address command? I was also messing around with framerelay and it seems it wont let you make a basic hub and spoke topology without making a bunch of p2p subinterfaces. Anyone use anything with a little more power?
     
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    Usually, the commands are not available if they aren't required for the CCNA. Something with a "little more power" would be the CCNP simulator, which includes everything in the CCNA simulator, plus much more.

    If you want me to check with the programming team and why they left out certain commands (like ip helper-address), I will be happy to do so for you... just say the word.
     
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    ya sure that woyuld be great. I am using the ccnp version though :(

    I really do like it for eigrp and ospf and the other ccnp stuff though
     
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    Then it doesn't completely "suck", then, does it? :D Yer hurtin' us with the bad advert in your post title, my friend. ;)

    Sending the request up the chain to the "other side of the house" (I focus on ExSim development).
     
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    From our programming department:

    "The latest version of NetSim does include some DHCP functionality. It supports the creation of a DHCP pool and will hand out IP addresses to PC workstations. It will only do so for hosts that can receive local broadcasts. The ability to relay DHCP requests across a network using ip helper-address isn't currently supported."

    I'm currently checking on the Frame Relay stuff. Usually, we simulate the things that are required for you to know on the exam... it's not designed to do EVERYTHING... it's a simulator. :)
     
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    Wouldn't it be great if there was something like VMware for routers and switches? :biggrin
     
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    You should go right now and invent that vmware thingy and then patent it. :twisted:
     
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    [Mod edit - Bluerinse - Post title toned down a tad]
     
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    There is... but it's not legal to use the Cisco IOS on it, per Cisco's copyright restriction.
     
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    Darn! Well it *sounded* like a good idea. :biggrin
     
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    Everyone but Cisco thought so. :D
     
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    Is there any reason as to why Cisco would not want to?
     
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    The IOS is Cisco's intellectual property - that's how they make their money. They don't want someone taking their IOS and using it in someone else's equipment, simulator or otherwise. The IOS can only be installed on the hardware chassis it is purchased for.

    It'd be great if they'd let us use the true IOS... that way, we could focus on high-quailty labs and not worry about having to simulate the IOS through code. But I don't think that'll ever happen.
     
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    Bottom line is the only way to use Cisco's IOS is to buy Cisco's equipment.
     
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    ...and use it only in Cisco hardware.
     
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    I see, well I guess thats too bad, but cisco does make good equipment. So I guess its worth the money if you have any to spend.
     
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