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Yippee, got my new laptop

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by wagnerk, May 8, 2009.

  1. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

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    Hi All,

    Well I'm happy, I got my new laptop - the MSI EX625, C2D T6400 (which is runs at 2GHz, but doesn't support virtualisation), the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, a 500GB HDD, blueray, HDMI out, etc...

    As standard, everything either matches or is better than my old laptop: the Acer 6920G, apart from the CPU (which in the Acer is the C2D 2.4GHz that support virtualisation) and the screen resolution (the Acer support the equivalent of 1080p).

    So wanting to make sure that I don't suffer, I've upgraded the MSI laptop with the CPU from the Acer - and it works :eek:

    While I've fixed laptops before, this is the first time I've swapped the CPU.

    The only thing is that I have not found an option to turn on virtualisation on in the BIOS - hopefully it'll do this automatically. I'll find out, once I install Windows 7 in it :)

    -Ken
     
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    I had to install the latest BIOS firmware to have the virtualization option.... from what I understand it's either turned on by default on some systems or you have to do the bios firmware update to see it... either way there are test that you can do to check to see if virtualization is enabled or not... I think for Intel its the VT test you do, there's an image that you burn on to cd and boot with it.
     
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    Why would the lappie not support virtualisation, and how would you do? Am i right in assuming you are referring to like VMWare, Virtual PC etc?
     
  4. wagnerk
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    It's different in Windows 7. In Windows 7, Windows Virtual PC is a feature and is hardware based (provided the CPU & BIOS supports it) when you to run applications "virtually" in a XP mode directly from Windows 7. Unlike VPC 2007 & VMWare where you would have to run applications within the virtual machine.

    Not all Intel chips support hardware virtualisation, for example the T6400 from intel:

    Whereas the T8300 from Intel:

    See here.

    -Ken
     
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    Just to let you know, on Vista Home Premium 32bit (the default OS), the WEI rating was 5.1 with the Ram being the slowest. After upgrading to Windows 7 64bit, my WEI has jumped to 5.7 with the HDD being the slowest (ram jumped from 5.1 to 6).

    Just downloading the Virtual XP machine for Win7, will let you know if it the BIOS support hardware virtualisation...

    -Ken
     
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    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    5.7 on your laptop is pretty sweet. My VAIO gets 5.0. Stupid sony have disabled VT on my lappy even though the T8100 supports it, doh! :(
     
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    That's worse. Almost like taking out life insurance, but you not getting the money till your gone :(

    -ken
     
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    Couldn't agree more Ken. I googled it and found tons of people really kicking off about it and as you've pointed out, once all us Vaio owners want to upgrade to Windows 7 its going to become more of a problem for us. It can be messed with to make it work but messing with my bios on my main machine makes me a bit uneasy ha ha :blink
     
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    I agree, as I recall the Vaio's don't have the "dual" bios for the just in case scenario :(

    BTW the MSI laptop, even though there's no option in the BIOS to turn on virtualisation, it seems that it's on by default. I can run apps in the virtual XP mode :)

    -Ken
     
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    Thats lucky. I think this could spell the end of my Vaio obsession (Last 3 laptops) :rolleyes:
     
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