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Would this be over egging it?

Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by greenbrucelee, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. greenbrucelee
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    I was wondering about putting personal achievments in a C.V.

    Some of you may or may not know as I have posted this before but I grew up in foster care and when I was very young social services basically told my foster parents that they shouldn't expect me to finish school, go to college/university and not to expect me to do anything other than a menial production job if I was lucky.

    Would it be pandering to peoples emotions or making out I had a big ego if I was to put that I have overcome peoples expectations of me?
     
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    yeah, i would say defo!
    No need to be that personal!
     
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    I thought so, I just wondered if saying that if you had everything stacked against you from the word go and you overcame it all that it could be put down as an accomplishment.
     
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    You're after a job in IT, not in Care Services. I wouldn't put anything as personal as that on my CV. It just screams 'See', you don't want that.

    I tend to believe that the CV should be about Technical ability, yes have some personal details on there (married, children, scant list of hobbies but that's about it) but don't go all mushy eyed over your up bringing.

    (sorry I don't mean to be harsh here but it really isn't anyone elses business).
     
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    Yeah I did think it wouldn't be good to put it, I just need to try and beef up my achievments etc.
     
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    Don't hesitate mentioning in when the time fits during the interviews.
     
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    If something came up in a invertview where I could mention it I would, although it hasn't in any I have had.
     
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    Hi mate, I didn't know that about you but thanks for sharing. I share a lot about myself on here I wouldn't in the office so I guess you could say I consider this a safe space, even tho its open to the public.

    I also wouldn't put it on your CV mate because its too personal and whilst its brilliant you have shown your doubters they can kiss your butt, personal statements can make the reader feel uncomfortable.

    Once you are in you can say what you please, but to get in, keep that little achievement to yourself. I'm sure most of us on here have had to overcome some adversity in our lives but well done you and keep up the good work, I'm sure you will go far with such a "can do" attitude. I'd hire ya ;)


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    Just to further echo the sentiments above. I couldnt give a stuffed Zebra about you overcoming the expectations of care services. Dont take that personally, but I dont (in a professional capacity), and nor will any employer. Its a nice personal achievement, and one to be celebrated personally, but professionally its irrelevant. To paraphrase Cap'n Jack Sparrow: There are only two things that matter: What a man can do, and what a man can't do.

    Admittedly, I'm not an employer, but Im sure that most employers echo a similar sentiment. I dont care if you are single or married, old or young, into clubbing or masturbation. I dont give a toss about your home life, nor about how you were bullied in primary school. I dont care if you enjoy golf or moshing.

    What I *DO* care about, is what you can do in a professional capacity. Are you capable of doing (either now, or with some training) the job I want you to do? If its no, then see ya, if its yes, then all well and good. You can be a deaf-mute for all I care, so long as hearing and speaking are not part of what I require you to do.

    In terms of what I do on my CV. I don't put "hobbies" or "interests". I dont put a little bio ("Fergal lives at home with his girlfriend. On a saturday night, they enjoy eating takeaway, and frantically screwing to niche fetish porn films" [Disclaimer - This bio is not indicative of my real life, but an hyperboly]). If its not relevant to the task of getting me the job, it doesnt go on the CV.
     
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    Sigged. :D
     
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    I agree, but then again most companies like to employ someone that has an outside life. I was asked about this is my interview about what I like to do outside of work ect. For example if you say you go out for a few drinks with the football team they will know your good at socialising and communicating and you can unwind after work. Also that your life just doesn't consist of work. After all what company would like to employ someone that sits on their pc 24/7 studying and doesnt have a laugh, comes into work tired because he wanted to stayup to finish that last cert. So I think companies do like to know what you do outside of work and they will most likely expand on it. That's just my opinion.

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    Not really. What I do outside work isnt any of their business. All that matters is what I can do, so long as the personal stuff doesnt adversely affect work.

    If they really want to know, they can ask at an interview. But its none of their business in looking at my cv.
     
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    I put interests in my CV and I like reading CV's with interests put on them. Each to their own, the times I've interviewed people if they don't have good social skills, seem to have nothing going on apart from work, seem dull or aggressive, they go no further with me. My team contains only people who are good at winning others over, but as said that’s my personal preference brought about through a dislike of the ignorant, elitist types; I'm sure we all know a few of in our companies.
     
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    But would you get an interview if they thought you did nothing outside of work? They like to know incase it does affect the way you work in their company. Speaking from experience I used to like to go Boxing after studying, when I went for the interview I included I liked Boxing. They asked me if I would come in with bruises ect.. as it would give a bad impression. I said no I would stick to it at weekends. They liked my attitude and I got the job. So I guess it may be differnt in my experience but most emplyers like to know as much about you as they can so you seem genuine. Just my opinion though I guess everyone likes to keep their own privacy on what they include.

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    I used to be a good little boxer Dave. I boxed for Sefton. Funny enough my 1st boss liked that I was a boxer because he was a fan of the sport. I'm not at my fighting weight any more tho ha ha Jim
     
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    I agree, IT is well known for hard working people I have always been told to show good social skills as that is mostly the factor that would give you the job compared to the IT tech that was interview you before that holds an extra cert but cannot communicate well with users.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend it. That's the sort of info that makes resume reviewers and interviewers roll their eyes.
     
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    Absolutely this. If I could rep it twice, I would.

    If you want to bring up hobbies and interests, that's what the interview is for, and ONLY if the employer brings it up...

    ...though I don't think I'd mention the niche fetish porn films. :p
     
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    Do they? I don't. If you want to work for me 24/7, go for it, if that's what drives you and makes you happy.

    Okay, then great! Answer them THEN, because THAT is what the interview is for!!! That's NOT what a CV or resume is for. ;)
     
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    Even if it did make you happy, I wouldn't let you do it. I'm big on the work/life balance myself personally, but as said, each to their own. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer because if it was me interviewing a person, I'd like that they enjoyed spending time with their family or were a member of a particular group.

    Sorry mate, I disagree, your CV is a sales document and I feel you should put what ever you think sells you in it. I'm going to get my private pilots licence and I will be putting it on my CV. Not that its going to land me a job, but it shows what I'm into outside of work i.e. "hopefully" an interesting person
     
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