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Thanks for the suggestion.

 

Congrats on the pass.

What next? I'd suggest either Budweiser, Stella, Jack Daniels, Baileys or something similar. Then maybe the Vista cert or the 70-270.

Maria

 

I forgot that I have the 70-270 book, could be an idea

 

I might aswell read it then decide on doing the exam

 

congrats on the pass!

 

congrats on the pass GBL, a well deserved one no doubt, good luck in whatever you choose to pursue!

 

*sigh*

Stop hugging XP... do Vista cert... earn two new qualifications... learn new techniques useful for Windows 7.

Nuff said already?

Qs

 

lol, I have BMs and Joshs book too. Choices choices

 

I'd do 70-620... but not in lieu of doing 70-270.

 

This has "Epic Fail" written all over it.

Stick with the XP certs... it'll be around for years to come. THEN get the Vista certs. THEN get the W7 certs. Simple as that.

The reason why I suggested GBL get the Vista MCITP certification is because the 70-270 is an MCSA-level certification exam. Arro's in an entirely different boat.

 

I think I'll do the Vista exam then see where I go from there

 

It's entirely dependant upon the individual. I obviously realise that XP is around and isn't going anywhere for a while (which I'm happy about) but MCDST covers client side XP troubleshooting, and there are two exams on it!

The choice for the mandatory client side requirement for MCSA is ONE of the following:-

• Exam 70-620 - TS: Configuring Microsoft Windows Vista Client
  
• Exam 70-270 - Installing, Configuring, and Administering Windows XP Professional
  
• (Or Exam 70-621 if candidate already has MCDST)

My point being; if you already have client side experience with XP (because of the MCDST) then why would you choose to do the client XP specific 70-270 over the 70-620 / 70-621? (If your answer to this is due to advanced 'MCSA level' XP knowledge then see my penultimate paragraph)

The former gives you a more thorough understanding of XP, but no additional certifications and no more up to date knowledge of recent OS's.

The latter gives you one (or two) new certifications, as well as this knowledge.


The choice selection for exams being discussed are all client exams, so what's the difference?

Obviously for completeness one would do both for the knowledge, but if this is just about hitting the MCSA requirements as quickly as possible I think 70-620/70-621 is a more rounded way to go, which is why I'm choosing this route. Others have also chosen to do this (presumably for the same reasons) - craigie for instance. It would be interesting to see what they have to say on the topic.


My two cents though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Qs

 

Exactly why I said that GBL should go for Vista and Arro should go for XP 270.

Dude... I work in the certification industry... you think you need to tell me this? I know what exams are out there, I promise you.

Because certifications are designed to show what you can already do... NOT what you want to learn or be doing!!! Dude, you of all people have seen me post that time and time and time again.

The reason why I recommended Arro go for the 70-270 and GBL go for Vista is because GBL doesn't have server administration experience; Arro does.

In any event, your statement to "stop hugging XP" is absurd. XP is the dominant client-side OS and it will continue to be so for some time to come.

The difference is that one is an MCSA-level exam, and the other is not. Microsoft has changed their structure since the 270/271/272 exams came out.

No... one would do both to prove one's experience.

It would be interesting to see what they have to say on the topic, and everyone can certainly think and do what they want. But I'm right on this one. Disagree if you will; I'm trying to help you guys out.

In any event, keep on arguing. Gives me more opportunity to convince people.

 

I'm not arguing, I'm putting my opinion across. It's not a win / lose scenario

The choice of client exams for the MCSA is restricted, it's either XP (270) or Vista (620/621). It doesn't really matter from an external view-point, you'll still be MCSA so long as you pass the other criteria.

Personally if I had the choice between the 70-621 and obtaining two additional certs and the 70-270 and obtaining no certs I would (and am!) going to chose the former.

My comment about hugging XP was made in jest. I guess sarcasm is difficult to gauge in a forum environment. I'll add a few more rasp smilies next time

Anyone else care to voice their opinion on the matter?

Qs

 

It *is* a win/lose scenario, depending on whose advice they choose. Not saying you lose or I lose... THEY lose, mate.

The suggestion to "stop hugging XP" is the part I disagree with, because you need to be able to prove your knowledge with XP. Companies will continue to use XP for years, I promise you. My last employer still had workstations with Windows 2000 Professional on it.

Sure it does - one is a client exam from a domain perspective, and the other is not.

The point ISN'T "Which exam can I take to get the MCSA"... the point IS "Which exam will help me be a better tech and give me more career opportunities". You're WAY too cert-focused. Take a step back, and see what I'm trying to say.

Doesn't matter if you're smiling or not - someone might just take your advice and abandon their XP certification plans, potentially weakening their career. And that'll be more and more true the longer you're on this forum and the more IT experience you gain, mate.

 

I think you should stop arguing now , I am gonna go for Vista but am look at S+ also but Vista is more to my level.