What do you guys make of this

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I agree!!!!

God, I hate buzzwords. I have a friend who works in the Banking industry. We chat on the phone a couple of times a week and we always spend 5 minutes talking about the latest buzzwords in use within our respective organisations.

The latest include :

'department footprint' (taken from 'carbon footprint')
'keeping things on you radar' (he works in a bank not on a submarine!!!)

The best yet, is when someone comes up with a bad idea it's known as an 'ouch', whilst a good idea is now a 'wow'.

 

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Right - new thread for this cos I don't want to hijack Paul's!

Business Buzzword Chain Madness in the 'Off Topic' forum...

 

Lol! cheers guys for your total mixture of opinions. I will take them into account, ill have to let ya all know how it went next week

 

I like your straight to the point approach zebulebu

 

Fair enough. I'm obviously in a minority of one. Not for the first time I hasten to add!

 

You dont have anything to lose from meeting the guy (apart from an hour of your time) and you could gain so much so my vote says go see the man!!

 

Well this informal talk turned out to be an interview for a position that became availible today
Level 2 Technical Analyst.
The MD had givin me two papers .

Disirable Qualifications
MSCE/MCSA/MCP
CCNA,CCNP,CCVP
Itil FOundation
Itil Pract.

Technical Competency.
Windows 200/2k3 - Int -> Advance
Exchange - Int -> Advance
Sql Server - Int -> Advance
IIS Admin - Int -> Advance
98/xp/200 - Advance
Office 97 xp / 2003 - Advance
linux - Intermediate
MacOSx - Intermediate
Symantec Backup - Intermediate
Sophos Business Solutions - Int -> Advance
Cisco IOS software - Int -> Advance
Cisco CallManager - Int -> Advance
Citrix Metaframe Int -> Advance
TCP/IP LAN/WAN/MAN, SNMP Int -> Advance
All Aspects on windows net management. Int -> Advance

Basicly he was impressed with my CV we discussed about lack of experience. I added im supreme at learning fast.
I offered to do say 2 weeks work there for nothing to see if i was up to it like.

The MD has left it to me to get in contact with him. So i dunno if hes waiting for me to tell him wether id be up to it or not.
He just said read through the job discription and resposibilitys and get back to me.

He also asked me if i would be prepared to sway away from the cisco route and i said id specificly wanted to do that.

So does this basicly mean im on for the job if i say yeah i can do it?

I admit i cant cover everything in the comptency part but a majority of it.

what u guys reckon. could this be too much for first timer?

Seems asthough they need a jack of all trades ere.

 

Hmm ....the competency list looks like it is for someone in their late 20's or ealy 30's that is an absolute gun and well experienced.

- note that the SQL, Exchange and Citrix levels are not far on senior systems administrator levels!

Good luck with it all....if you get this role you will have to absolutely get your skates on big time!

The thing to remember is that if you dont know then say so...if you BS you will come unstuck real fast...

Finally is there an older or more experienced tech you can work with at this place? - this is one of the best ways to get going!

 

I doubt there are many that can meet all the qualifications that they posted.

But I say go for it!!!!!!!! He obviously liked you to basically offer you the job on the spot it seems!

 

Well done laup

If you hadn't gone for this informal chat you wouldn't of learn't something from it.

There's some good advice on this thread and I am glad to see you took it onboard and acted on it!

The fact that you have offered your services to the company free shows you are committed to the job. I think the MD knew all along that there was a job in the pipeline. But didn't want to go through H.R.

It is the same where I work, most of the guys said they got their job through word of mouth and not from job adverts or job agencies.

I hope a job does come out of this, but if it doesn't at least you will have a bit work experience behind you or maybe a foot through the door.

I started with working for a IT Dept on a two week voluntary Basis.
After having a friendly chat with a IT manager on the phone regarding IT industry, I droppped the question in can I do some voluntary work.
At the end of my two weeks I was offered a temporary contract and then after 3 months a permanent position.

So you see you never really know what's round the corner, but if you keep an open mind and positive attitude and do your best, then you will always get something out of it.
Don't think of it as a job but work experience.

Good Luck

 

Glad you attended the interview and I also wish you well.

 

Agreed. Those intermediate-to-advanced competency levels are awfully high. Are you sure he knows you don't have any real-world experience with any of those technologies? You could be getting in over your head. Like Supa suggested, if you don't know how to do something, be sure to say so up front.

If you're comfortable with taking on the challenge, I wish you the best of luck!

 

I told him i wont BS him on what i dont think im capable of, i think him giving me the sheet. was for me to then read through and then basicly tell him what i can and cant do.

The situation with the company is there 3 guys covering service levels 1/2/3, now one of them will be going on to project management. His place needs to be filled.

So in hand there will be some more experienced guys ill be working with in the team.

He spoke about my cisco certs and mentioned about voip alot. i guess i could sweet talk him, by sayin im prepared to take the cvoice route

But as 2 of u said could i be goin in over my head ere, everyone else has said just go for it, but they have no clue about IT Industry lol

 

I hate to stress you out, but I have to give you the cold truth, ya know? Otherwise, I'd not be providing you sound advice.

I've seen plenty of people get in over their head and they were back out looking for a job in a month or two. Worse yet, they either end up with a short employment record on the CV that looks absolutely horrible (especially when future employers ask why you were only there for 2 months), or they have to leave it off their CV entirely because it looks so bad.

Then there are those who get in over their head and they don't get fired, but they end up being stressed out and miserable over their job because they're constantly having to work late to stay on top of things they should already know at that career level. To illustrate what I'm meaning, it'd be like taking Calculus before you've taken Trigonometry, and while your teacher is throwing Calc at you, you're furiously trying to bone up on Trig in order to figure out what the heck the teacher is trying to say. That's horribly stressful.

That said, you might be the exception to the rule and take to it like a duck to water. But I must warn you that the job that I saw described is NOT an entry-level job... and the real-world is FAR different than what you might have seen in a home lab or in books.

You know I already wish you the best of luck in your career, and I pray that God will grant you wisdom in your decision.

 

I know you do micheal this does seem quite high, but this employer seems quite keen in my eyes, he has now invited me to a "job shadow execise" on monday afternoon.

I take it this will envolve me being someones shadow lol.

I guess im getting that one inch closer

But i will tell him if it seems a little too much for me come monday.

 

Goodluck, mate. Hope it goes well.

 

Ahh unfortuantely didnt get the job they after more experienced guy i guess

Pitty though the job was a bit of piss really.

"Hi Paul

Many thanks for your time over the past week.

Post our internal discussions / deliberations – I am disappointed to inform you that we feel our immediate needs are best suited with a more experienced IT professional and subsequently therefore have no current vacancies for you.

Please be aware that this decision wasn’t taken lightly and under different business conditions I am confident you could have added value to our team… who knows, our paths may cross at some point in the future!

In the meantime, I wish you every success in your job-searching and resulting 1st commercial role in IT. I am confident that with your focus and driven goal mind-set – you will achieve your goal of becoming a Cisco qualified IT Consultant.

Best Regards,"

 

hard luck pal - get back on that horse and you will be fine before you know it...

 

He's right - IT's a small world. I've worked with the same group of people for two different employers... I've worked with another group of people for two different employers... and yet another group of people for THREE different employers. After a while, it seems that everyone knows everyone else in IT... so you very well COULD be working with him at some point in the future.

Keep your head up, get that entry-level job, and start building that experience. You'll get there.