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What course next?

Discussion in 'A+' started by zr79, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. zr79

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    Seems as though i am just doing the IT essentials course I which is just too basic. Also seems as though you have IT essentials II - Network operating system-unsupported?

    So you then have the 220-602, 220-603, 220-604. What sort of jump are these 3 from the IT essentials?

    I take it the 220-604 covers all things in the 220-602 and 220-603 and that bit extra?

    How much does it cost to sit these each of these exams.........?

    thanks for any help here.
     
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  2. soundian

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    You only have to sit one of these exams (plus the essentials).
    602-IT technician-recommended
    603-Helpdesk tech
    604-Depot tech
    The general opinion seems to be, avoid the 603 and 604 unless you've been specifically requested to do one of them by a employer. If you don't already work in IT I don't see the point in restricting your employment options by specialising before you know what to specialise in.
    See here for more info

    Costs are around £130-140 per exam I think, so around £270ish for in total for the certificate.

    I've never heard of an essentials II so I can't help you there.
     
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  3. zr79

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    Thanks. I am still a bit vague here though, i am doing the IT essen at college, will i be sitting the 220-602 as well as the IT essen or will i only be sitting an IT essen final exam, and hence i would have to organise the 220-602 myself. ??

    I wont see my tutor to ask him till next year now..
     
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  4. soundian

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    I have no idea. Try looking up your course on your college website, you should get the info there.
     
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  5. zr79

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    Ok i get you, so the 220-602 isn't part of the IT essen, i thought it might be default.

    How big a jump is it from IT essen to 220-602, i am finding IT essen very easy as i have done all this before....?
     
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  6. del_port

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    whichever way you do it you'll need to sit and pass two exams,without doing two exams you haven't passed the A+.

    601 is the main one which you don't have any choice over,you do that exam then choose
    exam 602
    603
    or 604

    It's sounds like you are getting very confused about the way things are done at college,in college you are asked to sit one exam at the end of the course,if you pass you get a certificate to say you pased the whole college course.

    This has nothiing to do with your A+ qualification.The college should then expect you to take a break for a few months and book your 2 exams at an external test centre,possibly a long distance away from college.

    You pay for those exams out of your own money,you should get both at £65 each like i got them.Once you pass the 2 x £65 exams you've passed the A+.You have a full year to take those 2 exams,you can sit them any time you like.
    I finished college in january this year and i've still to take my 2nd exam,i passed the 1st one back in april.I'll be sitting exam 2 quite soon.

    Some people don't want to take these exams at all and are happy with the college certificate which says you attended and passed the course.

    Is all your college training material Cisco branded?
    And do you get a 1 hour test at the end of each class day?
     
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  7. soundian

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    There's not much difference if you ask me. I tried to be smart and split up my studying but it's proven to be impossible. If you find the 601 (Essentials) easy then the 602 should be easy as well.
    You can find a link to the exam objectives at the top of this forum.
    A quick idea of the differences:
    602: 20% each-OS, hardware
    15%-printers, communication and professionalism
    10%-networks, laptops, security
    603- 30%-OS
    20%-comm. and pro.
    15%-hardware,security
    10%-printers,networks
    Note there is no laptops in 603
    604- 45% Hardware
    20%-laptops,printers
    10%-safety and environment
    5%-security
    Note there are no networks, OS or communication in 604
    (all percentages approximate)
    601 has similar percentages to the 602.
     
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  8. greenbrucelee
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    I have heard of people doing this at colleges where you are actually passing a college course as has been said to get the A+ you only need to pass two exams essentials 220-601 and one other.

    Passing all four may be a requirement of the course you are on but it is not a requirement to get the A+.
     
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  9. zr79

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    Yeah it's run through Cisco and we have the one hour tests.
     
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  10. DrkSnpr4

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    Hello,

    The IT Essentials I & II are from Cisco's old program, now uses 4.0 and it includes all of these two in IT Essentials. It lasted 2 semesters each with 3 months length, now it lasts 1 semester with 6 months length. Also in my country the old version of course is running well. :p
     
  11. del_port

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    It's the same course as mine then.

    At the end of the college course they will explain to you how you get the discounts on exams [£65 is the discounted price] and how to find a test centre to do the exams in the year ahead.

    They do encourage you to start studying after college has come to an end in order to prepare yourself for the exams,at my college they said to leave it for a month or two to revise eveything before you look to book the exams.

    So overall the whole college course is only a preparation to get you to the level required to pass the exams.It isn't anything more than a preparation.

    You'll see at the end of the college course all those tests you are doing week after week barely count,i was a bit disappointed in this fact, as i put loads of effort into the weekly tests and in the end the whole thing was hardly relevant.
    I think the tests are there for 2 reasons,one to check that you understand all the subjects,and two,to check who is doing badly in class,if you are getting 50% every week in those tests you are unlikely to pass the exam.

    At my college we had to do well every week in those tests or resit them,50% wasn't an acceptable score.

    I know you said you are finding it easy,but there must be a few in your class getting around 50% in their test results?

    It's a course for beginners and experienced people after all not everyone will be finding it easy.


    I too thought the course was the A+ and that there was nothing more to do after the course came to an end ,and i was also confused why there was only on college exam.

    It made sense in the end once i realised it is all a preparation for the A+ exams.
     
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  12. zr79

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    I have been building PC's for years including networks, this is so easy it's hard to stay awake during it, i have a degree in science as well but i decided to go into IT and nobody is giving my CV a second look so thought i'd try this course but it is way below me(with all due respect to the course) the other guys on the course are finding it quite tough about 60-80% most people are getting in exams, i have had 96% and 1 100% in all exams so far with just flicking through the notes for about 5 mins before the exams making note of things like 'number of pins in cables' and varies other essential numbers to learn.........
     
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  13. del_port

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    I also spent a lot of time building pcs and fixing them long before i even heard of the A+ .

    I was studying a lot for the A+ because i was too used to doing things as a single individual who didn't answer to anyone,and the A+ focuses on company responsibility and communicating with the public, fire and chemical risks,insurance and security of computer equipment etc,... so i had all that to learn.

    My knowledge of networking was also non existent,and there are 2 chapters dedicated to networking so i studied a lot there too.
     
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  14. zr79

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    Quick course on Networks for you,

    You either use Cisco equipment(kit) or more mainstream kit.
    Cisco kit is geared toward networks raging from medium office and upward.

    Kit is basically routers, switches, hubs, modems, variety of cables, wireless and a few other heavy duty peices of kit for the ISP end of things.

    You generally have peer-to-peer or client/server networks, used in a LAN or WAN most commonly

    P2P networks have no server, basically all directly cabled to each other using hubs and routers, makes them harder to update and can crash the whole chain if one goes down, has it's benefits as well though.

    Cleint/Server, all PC's on network connect to a central server, varies benefits and disadvantages here as well

    Network topology is basically the layout shape of of the network, like in an internet cafe would probably have a ring shape topology, easy

    Brief start anyway.
     
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  15. del_port

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    Thanks for the network tips.

    Are you nearly finished the course?Did you begin in september?

    Thinking back there are 2 college exams,you get one after chapter 10,and one after chapter 16,those two results are joined and put towards the final total,you also get a hardware test after chapter 16 ,where you have to fix something,or identify hardware,which you'll sail through i guess.

    So, the hardware test,points are awarded for that.
    The chapter 10 and chapter 16 tests,a large percentage of the final score is awarded for those.

    And you get a small amount of points [may'be less than 10%] for those dozen or so tests you've done every week.

    Now you can see how unimportant the tests turn out to be,you get barely any points at all for those hours of testing.

    Few people will be able to completely fail the college experience,but at the end,as i said all you get is a certificate saying you've done the course.

    If you then go on to do a microsoft course,like i chose to do, you'll see just how good this course actually was,i really miss the style of teaching of the A+ ,for me it was a good experience and i enjoyed it,microsoft teaching just doesn't suit me at all,i've found the teaching to be like self study,head in a book and fairly boring,rather than really getting involved like i did at the A+.
     
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  16. zr79

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    Finish end of February. It's not unreasonable to sit 4 exams pretty much one after then other, IT essen(601), 602, 603, 604 ??

    Really matter of cost, i think you said £65 so * 4 = £260
     
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  17. del_port

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    I thought of taking all 4 exams myself,but i'm just going with 2 exams as i feel diversity [two sets of differing qualifIcations] is better than 4 of the same thing.
    So i'd rather have
    A+
    and
    microsoft desktop technician

    That is just my way of looking at it,plus i don't have money for loads of exams.
     
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