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VMware Server vs. Virtual PC 2007

Discussion in 'Virtual Computing' started by tripwire45, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. tripwire45
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    This isn't a "shootout" but rather a decision I need to make.

    I've been tasked with creating an environment where I can install our latest server product as new test builds are created and working through the install and configure process. This is in part so I can document the processes and in part to make use of my time to help shake out issues with the product. I can choose to install either VMware server or Virtual PC 2007 on my production machine since both are free. I'm familiar with WMware Workstation and am leaning in that direction, but if anyone has an opinion (make it quick, I want to get started soon), now's the time.

    VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/

    Virtual PC 2007: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx
     
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  2. JohnBradbury

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    One of the key features missing from Virtual PC 2007 is the ability to snapshot the image and revert back to a previous state when needed. This is something I use quite a bit and it saves me a lot of time. I believe snapshots are available in VMWare Server but limited to one per image.

    VMWare server also has better support for non-microsoft operating systems if needed.

    I'd go with VMWare Server [but if you can get the company to pay for Workstation then that would be the best option].

    Added :

    I forgot to mention that Virtual PC can only assign a single processor to each VM. Workstation [and I believe VMWare Server] can assign two.

    Also I don't believe VMWare Server can create new Virtual Machines so if you don't have the ability to do this you might have to go with Virtual PC as this can create new VMs.
     
  3. Phoenix
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    As far as I am aware VPC still cant support x64 guests which are becoming more and more common, thus you may need to start testing your software on those as well
     
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  4. BosonJosh

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    I've used both and both were sufficient for my needs. VMWare does seem to offer more options, but VPC has always accomplished what I needed. That being said, I use VMWare Workstation now.
     
  5. zimbo
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    Im with Ryan on this.. looks like in the future most of the testing software (Server 2008 Hyper V for example) with be only in 64 bit and Virtual PC 2007 doesnt support virtual hosts.
     
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    I like VMware's snapshot feature......for those times when you say "I really shouldn't have done that".
     
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  7. tripwire45
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    I'm installing VMware Server as we speak. I got an error message stating the VMware Management Interface installed successfully but did not start automatically. It said I'll have to start it manually from IIS. Bummer.
     
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  8. tripwire45
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    I opened VMware Server and don't seem to have the option of creating any VMs. The VMware Management Interface service is stopped and I can't start it as per the attached graphic. As far as I know IIS itself is started. Where do I begin troubleshooting this pesky little problem? Thanks.
     

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  9. wagnerk
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    Just asking why don't you use MS Virtual Server? I'm only asking as it was a choice between VMware Server (instead of VMware Workstation) and VPC.

    -ken
     
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  10. JohnBradbury

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    VMWare server is only for running existing VMs. It doesn't have the ability to create new ones.
     
  11. tripwire45
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    Oh...well, *that* makes a difference. Guess I didn't read things as clearly as I should have before. :oops:

    Seems that VMware Server doesn't play well with Windows XP Pro...at least in terms of the VMware Management Interface. I uninstalled and am reinstalling VMware Server and came across a message stating that the management interface is only supported on server operating systems. Also, when it tried to start the management interface, I got "Warning 25300 stating that it was installed and configured correctly but failed to start (this is where I came in).
     
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  12. JohnBradbury

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    Trip I would also recommend you take a quick look at VirtualBox, it's an excellent product similar to VMWare Workstation and it's 100% free.
     
  13. np3893

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    I've used VMware server in the past and have had no problems creating new vm's with it. As far as i know it is VMware player that you can't create new vm's with. Unless VMware have changed this in the last couple of months.

    In terms of VMware Server and VMware Workstation, Workstation adds more features such as the ability to use the sound card etc.
     
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  14. JohnBradbury

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    Appologies for pointing you down the wrong path. I was under the impression VMWare Server couldn't do this, but then again I use Workstation so my knowledge of VMWare server is limited. I must have mixed it up with the player...

    Thanks np3893
     
  15. tripwire45
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    All may not be lost. I reviewed the original email from my "mentor" and it says in part:
     
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  16. Phoenix
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    Huh?

    I'm pretty sure VMWare PLAYER is for running VMs, VMWare Server should be able to run them all fine

    Edit: Sorry np, totally missed your post mate! :)


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