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Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by Sar_Pam, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. Sar_Pam

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    I am still looking for job in IT since I dont have any experience in IT so I am looking for my first job in IT can anyone advice me abt that. I seriously need job soon I dont like to depend on others.

    thanx for ur time.
     
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  2. BosonMichael
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    Line forms to the left, round the corner, and down the street. :p

    Depending on others is a *great* way to get into IT. That's how I got my first IT job... I knew someone who recommended that I come in for an interview.

    What are you currently doing towards getting your first IT job?
     
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  3. Sar_Pam

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    I am currently searching jobs in local newspapers and applying jobs online but it isnt working I applied for job and then I get response via mail or phone and finish no further process.
     
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  4. greenbrucelee
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    look for entry level or trainee jobs, I made the mistake of applying for jobs for ages that were beyond my skill and experience level.
     
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  5. BosonMichael
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    Those are good methods, but realize that EVERYONE uses those methods, so competition is fierce. If you don't stand out, you're just another face in a crowd. That's why I mention to use people you know - preferably people who are already in IT - to help you find those "hidden" IT jobs that aren't (yet) listed in the newspaper and on online job search engines.
     
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    My first IT job came to me through a member of my church. I was on disability because of health problems and I started running a multi-line culinary arts themed BBS as a hobby. It didn't matter which of my four phone lines you called -- a computer modem would be on the answering end. The fellow who hired me needed a tech badly, he new enough of my character from church, and he knew I had some computer prowess. Everything snowballed from there.

    Truth is, I never had to apply for an IT position. Every job I had up until I opened my own business came through people I knew or had socially networked with. It's for this reason that I feel that social networking is the best way to find work (church, volunteer work, etc.), whereas job ads are pretty much the worst.
     
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  7. BosonMichael
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    Exactly! Out of eight IT positions, I've applied for two (and both of those were found online). The other six I got because someone knew me.
     
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    You could try volunteering for a local charity. I think the best bet for starting is to find a small business/organisation with someone who is prepared to give you a go. You dont need to get a job in IT initially, you could just do a few hours a week. They are always looking for someone do their IT (Cheap! :rolleyes:)

    Gradually you will get more and more responsibility until you have enough experience to move on to something better. That's how I got started anyway.
     
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  9. drum_dude

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    I get the impression that the OP meant that he doesn't like to be financially dependent on others! If that is the case I know exactly how the OP feels!

    For me, trying to get into computer support was a real b'stard! Back in 1999/2000 I was really down on my luck what with messing up at Uni and all. I suddenly found myself ejected off my course with only a few student loans and an overdraft to show for it!

    One day in 2000 I decided to advertise myself as a drum-tutor in the local music stores. I knew enough about music and could read music quite well. After being told that I was wasting my time by my folks I suddenly got a call from a private school looking for a drum tutor. They employed me to teach drums to the kids for a few hours a day.

    A few months later the headmaster asked if I would be interested in producing a school magazine - I'd previously expressed an interest in such things...and by not using professional designers he was looking to save a couple of quid too. So I produced the school rag using Adobe Pagemaker and he was that impressed that he chucked me a couple of hundred quid.

    A few weeks later he asked if I'd like to become their IT Tech and the rest is history!

    It's amazing how one skill can open many doors - up until that point I would never had imagined that my drum skills would get me my first IT job. Life is indeed full of surprises.

    Now that my story is out of the way, what's your CV like? Can you post it up and what positions are you applying for? Do you send covering letters etc can we see one? Post up as much info as you can as there is a lot of people who do the hiring or application sifting for an employer and they'll be able to scrutinise your approach etc.
     
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  10. grim

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    do you really have a masters degree in computers ? surely your uni could help you as this would be a specialised area ?

    Grim
     
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  11. somabc

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    Yeah WTF? You have a Masters in Computing (MSc?) and you are looking for your 1st job in IT. Don't apply for any entry level jobs as you are way over qualified. I would look more towards a mangement/business role rather than purely IT. Depends on what your previous employment experince is like. Have you managed any teams before? Or you could apply to the graduate schemes of any of the big firms
     
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    i get turned away from 1st line and i only got a degree and for 2nd line you need experience.

    Grim
     
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  13. Sar_Pam

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    Hi guys

    You are all very nice so for. I applied all sorts of positions from entry level to developer and some of voluntary jobs but didnt find any option. And also send covering letter with CV for applyiong job. I am posting my CV your reviews needed.



    cia
     
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  14. wagnerk
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    Don't give up, I'm speaking from personal experience. It took me about 5 years to get my foot into the IT field (I also know people that have taken longer, as well as shorter).

    See your Uni about job placement, you might even get onto a research project/program with your Uni and get paid for it (like a bursary). As for searching for jobs online, make sure that you're looking for graduate jobs, as they are the ones normally aims at people fresh out of College/Uni with Masters, etc. You can also sign-up with your local Jobcentre Plus, they may not get the best IT jobs, but all you need is that first job. Sign up with the private job agencies in your area. You may also want to join a Professional IT/Computer association, like the BCS where you can network with other IT professionals in your area/in your surrounding areas.

    As for volunteering, you may want to check out these posts: Post1 & post2. The only downside to volunteering is that it's just that volunteering (little or no pay), however it will give a good experience base for you to build on.

    -Ken
     
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    Hi Sar, I have had a look at your CV and would advise you alter and remove the profile as this can be talked about in the job interview.

    Lastly, put your qualifications and cert at the back of your CV, make sure your experience and what you can and have done is immediately displayed on the first page after your name and address. Best wishes:)
     
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  16. Sar_Pam

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    Hi
    Thanx for your advice I will do it.
     
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  17. wagnerk
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    Just had a look at your CV, your list of academic qualifications are good and you've had a few jobs already. Had you tried applying to your local Colleges/Uni's as a lecturer in IT/Computing (as on your CV you've done that already). Once you're in you can then see about joining the ILT (Information Learning Technology) group, which is a half way house between IT and the end-user. The ILT group are powerusers that work with the IT Services dept and the end-users to solve some problems as well as training, etc* (it does vary from organisation to organisation). Then once you've done that in the UK for a while (maybe 1 or 2 years), then see about making the move to the IT Services dept, whether it's in the educational sector or not.

    -Ken
     
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  18. grim

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    your CV seems a little "hard" you've adjusted the margins to cram as much on as possible which in my opinion doesn't look too professional. Your CV also seems to just be one long list of software/programming packages. usually you only include your last 2 jobs and you need to include usually at the start information about you as it doesnt really tell me anything about you as a person. you're not only trying to sell your abilities, employers also like to know what sort of person you are to judge whether you'll fit into their working environment.

    Grim
     
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  19. francisco

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    BosonMichael is wright,just contacts and networking will give you that entry level job.I am in the same situation ,3 years looking and aplying for any IT jobs and nothing.Do placement or voluntary work and from there you will be in better position for an employer to hire you.

    good luck..
     
  20. BosonMichael
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    There's only one problem with that plan... most companies won't hire someone without experience, regardless of their degree, for more than an entry-level job. In truth, the Masters degree could be making it MORE difficult, not LESS difficult, to get that first IT job. We talk all the time here about being overcertified. In this case... it seems he's "overdegreed". When you're overdegreed for entry-level jobs, and underexperienced for anything higher, you're caught in an unemployable situation.

    Normally, when someone without experience grabs the CCNA, I'll advise that they leave the CCNA off their resume when applying for entry-level positions. I'd advise the same thing with regards to the Masters degree... companies aren't going to want to hire someone with a graduate degree for an entry-level job.
     
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